Shameful!

Delaying poll is a cheap way for Stuart to hold onto power - Joseph

Prime Minister Freundel Stuart’s decision to go down to the wire before ringing the election bells is nothing but a “cheap way” of clinging on to power, two of this island’s most prominent political scientists have charged.

And if Stuart decides to stretch the life of his Government into the 90-day period after the dissolution of Parliament it will be to his own detriment, they warned.

The Prime Minister yesterday gave his strongest indication yet that he would not be ringing the general election bell anytime soon.

With Parliament due to be dissolved by March next year if an election is not held by then, it is a constitutional requirement that the poll be called within 90 days of its dissolution.

With this in mind, Stuart told the final sitting of Parliament for 2017 that he had every intention of serving out his entire five-year term in office.

“We [the DLP administration] were given five years from February 21 until. So that is what we are going to do. And when Parliament is dissolved, the Constitution says you have to call an election within 90 days and all of that we know. So take it easy. The law is going to be observed at every point. You can be sure about that,” he said.

Political scientist Tennyson Joseph told Barbados TODAY this evening he was not surprised at Stuart’s decision, adding that the Prime Minister was approaching politics like a lawyer, and with no creativity.

“The Prime Minister doesn’t apply any political nuance to anything that he is doing – not on the economy, not on his leadership to his colleagues or how he treats his Cabinet. He is basically a very limited constitutionalist and will basically do what the constitution says in a very plastic way. On the other side, it is a kind of cheap way of holding on to power.

“In addition, he has not shown any creativity in terms of reshuffling his Cabinet. There is nothing of that style. There is no surprise in his politics,” a critical Joseph said.

The University of the West Indies lecturer in political science said anyone surprised by Stuart’s comments was not paying attention, since he had used the same argument ahead of the last general election “that basically he is going by the strict rule of the constitution”.

Joseph, who shied away from predicting the likely outcome of the next election, warned that since Stuart was “not averse to adding the 90 days” Barbadians should not be shocked if the elections were held in the middle of June.

In a separate interview with Barbados TODAY pollster Peter Wickham argued that Stuart was already down to the wire given that there were just over two months left before Parliament is automatically dissolved.

He said the use of the 90-day grace period provided by the Constitution after the dissolution of Parliament was not a practice widely used in the region, and if Stuart decided to go down that route he would be doing so at his own risk.

“There is an expectation that election will be called sooner rather than later. If he decides to go into that term he has every right to do so and I think that no one can claim he has breached any fundamental principle of the constitution, but I believe it is at his own political peril,” Wickham stressed.

The political consultant said if an election were not called sooner, “it will be worse for Stuart later”, since the population was growing “increasingly frustrated with the status quo”.

Wickham told Barbados TODAY he believed that since his public opinion poll several months ago, the Democratic Labour Party’s position had deteriorated and could decline even further.

He added that there was still “considerable distance for the Democratic Labour Party to drop and there is considerable distance for the Barbados Labour Party to rise”.

“Stuart is essentially playing Russian roulette if he believes that by continuing longer he will make the situation better,” Wickham said, while pointing out that every election had to do with strategy and he was yet to see any from Stuart.

“As I look at what is going on in Antigua right now and what is going on in Grenada, it is clear to me that both of those leaders understand the strategic advantage of calling an election at a time when people are happiest. If Prime Minister Stuart prefers not to do that and not call an election during the winter tourist season when more Barbadians are working, and he prefers to push it into March or April or worse yet, May, when the traditional low season starts, again he does it at his own peril,” said Wickham, who was speaking from Antigua.


marlonmadden@barbadostoday.bb

78 Responses to Shameful!

  1. Sharon Taylor
    Sharon Taylor December 21, 2017 at 2:11 am

    Stupse….

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  2. Michael Reid
    Michael Reid December 21, 2017 at 4:53 am

    I would send someone to Jenkins for a brain scan

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  3. hcalndre December 21, 2017 at 5:21 am

    Tennyson/Peter; all that you said about Stuart is true until Tennyson mention that he is approaching politics like a lawyer. You should have said if he is a smart lawyer that you would recommend to a friend for him to represent but not if he has to come up against Atty. Comissiong. He wants to be PM for the rest of his life, he has someone to prepare his meals, he has a housekeeper, he is chauffeur driven all out of the taxpayers money, life could not be better for a man that said he was poor.

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    • harry turnover December 21, 2017 at 7:17 am

      I said it before and I will say it again…Stuart does not care bout a fella…doesn’t know/care bout the economy either.
      ALL Stuart cares bout IS THE PM portfolio …he likes to be called PRIME MINISTER STUART.

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  4. Jennifer December 21, 2017 at 5:37 am

    All the talk that you 2 talking, it is Stuart’s right to run things to the wire if he wishes. Peril or no peril or roulette. And you two talking making you sound bigot-ish.

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  5. Bajan USA December 21, 2017 at 6:19 am

    Like or hate him. One thing i can say is this. The barbados P.M always stand his grown. The man can not be bullied into doing anything he don’t want to do. Seem he got the law on his side in the case. The man is a better campaigner than lots of those running of his job. What we the Barbadians people want is honest leadership. Progressives solution to our problems. Total reform of our country political systems. One of my concern is this. There are too many constituencies in such a small place. It need to be reduce back to( 11 )representative(Not M.Ps) but people rep: these people should have official office’s in the constituency. They job is the look after the well being of that parish needs. With a well functioning office staff of course. That’s the kind if change we want. Now let’s see how many bajans will tell me that, “that cant wuk here”

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    • harry turnover December 21, 2017 at 7:19 am

      Of course “that cant wuk here”….WHY ? because we are NOT living in a PERFECT WORLD big man.

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      • Bajan USA December 21, 2017 at 7:50 am

        When you say “Why” I though you had something of intelligent to offer small man. Wait Harry are you one of them fellow that went to SECONDARY SCHOOL?

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    • Leroy December 21, 2017 at 10:15 am

      I agree,,only difference is a separate entity for town areas which need special management

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  6. Lauretta Smith
    Lauretta Smith December 21, 2017 at 6:30 am

    Who is power hungry now ?he is holding on to power as long as he can well time longer than twine

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  7. Sophia Lewis
    Sophia Lewis December 21, 2017 at 6:39 am

    Political plan is greed. Pettiness.

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  8. Sheron Inniss December 21, 2017 at 6:44 am

    @ Bajan USA. I feel it could work here. But a lot of yardfowls would have to drop down dead. Ha ha ha

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  9. Sophia Foster
    Sophia Foster December 21, 2017 at 6:44 am

    How it get shame full wanna need stop pointing fingers the pm done nothing wrong when owen was in did he not went to wire stupse after treasury building up things are brightening up for Barbados wanna powers hungry fowl want come take it to ground mr stuart make Barbados republic and leave them in back yard do

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    • Gillian Skeete
      Gillian Skeete December 21, 2017 at 7:04 am

      Wtf??? Are you saying???

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    • Troy Marshall
      Troy Marshall December 21, 2017 at 7:08 am

      Sophia Foster can’t u even type the english language that people can understand what u r saying,it’s really ridiculous how people speak and write in this day and age.Anyway as far as I know Owen did not go to the wire and if he did at least we saw and felt that he was doing a fantastic job.Get it together,if u like suffering we intelligent people don’t,get it together u sound ignorant.Big snout is doing nothing for us and we want DEM out,get with the programme.

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    • Gillian Skeete
      Gillian Skeete December 21, 2017 at 7:21 am

      Troy Marshall true some need to learn how to write. The babble they wrote did not make sense lol

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    • harry turnover December 21, 2017 at 7:27 am

      WTRH are you saying ? you know wha you talking bout ? a DEM yard fowl or paling cock should enlighten you to the FACT that STUART is the ONLY PM/ LEADER in the HISTORY of BDOS POLITICS that has done that.
      Seems to me that you just don’t know what ” going to the wire ” means.
      Wonder if you would understand if I was to say…” going down to the bone ” then.

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    • Deva-Alexandra DeBeauvois
      Deva-Alexandra DeBeauvois December 21, 2017 at 7:31 am

      Stupse!

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    • Rawle Spooner
      Rawle Spooner December 21, 2017 at 7:52 am

      What are you babbling about please explain properly.

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    • Gail Laughlin Maskell
      Gail Laughlin Maskell December 21, 2017 at 7:53 am

      Gillian Skeete she writes just as a dem

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    • Valerie Knight
      Valerie Knight December 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm

      You sound as ignorant as the ruling party. The only thing the party has done is raped the country. Roads in town and throughout the country in extreme state of disrepair I remember telling friends that it won’t be long before a tourist have an accident with one of the potholes and claim compensation and a couple of months later I was informed that it had happened. So you must be seeing a different country to the one I know.

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  10. Santini More
    Santini More December 21, 2017 at 6:58 am

    If this Govt was generally popular and doing an ok job then the election date would not matter so much. But unfortunately that is far from the fact and so many of us are eager to be rid of the callous incompetence of this DLP administration. Stewart is the worst leader of my lifetime and the dreadful demise of Barbados can be squarely laid at his feet. History will not be kind to this buffoon.

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    • Rishona Graham
      Rishona Graham December 21, 2017 at 7:12 am

      After the elections things still won’t be better and the island more than likely regardless of which ever party will result in an IMF program and workers being sent home further hardships man our country lick right up fa now

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    • Santini More
      Santini More December 21, 2017 at 7:18 am

      Rishona Graham Change takes time and in our case to dig our way out of this unholy mess will take many, many years and we will suffer pain. However if we stick with this useless, arrogant, moribund set of people in this current DLP administration, then Barbados has zero opportunity of EVER getting over this nightmare.

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    • Ras Small
      Ras Small December 21, 2017 at 8:33 am

      And @ Owing feet too.

      Reply
  11. Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 7:00 am

    Is this the same man who was soundly beaten when he ran for office in the recent elections in St. Lucia???

    Not even St. Lucians take him seriously!!!!!

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    • harry turnover December 21, 2017 at 7:43 am

      Why should St.Lucians take him seriously ?…doesn’t the man work and LIVE in BARBADOS ?
      C C C …bet the BAJANS gine take him seriously and kick wunna RH out next June
      June in gine be too soon fa wunna though….the Hurricane Season is going to start with a LANDSLIDE here in BIM
      Countdown to the GENERAL ELECTIONS is 6 months,so BAJANS you ALL have to be prepared for the EARLY KADOOMENT or some might say EARLY XMAS 2018….wonder if Santa gine come down ?

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      • Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 11:16 am

        That shows how little you know. You don’t even know who he is.

        “”BARBADOS TODAY – An acrimonious quarrel which erupted between two regional political scientists ahead of Monday’s general election in St Lucia appears to be escalating.
        The latest salvo was fired today by pollster Peter Wickham in his public row with Head of the Department of Government, Sociology and Social Work at the Cave Hill Campus of the University of the West Indies (UWI)
        Dr Tennyson Joseph, with Wickham accusing the academic of embarrassing the university.
        The two had engaged in a public spat after a survey by Wickham’s polling company CADRES, found the election too close to call.
        The Wickham survey also found an eight per cent swing away from the then incumbent St Lucia Labour Party (SLP) of Dr Kenny Anthony towards Allan Chastanet’s United Workers Party (UWP).
        Joseph had rubbished the poll, contending that the investigators had not gone deep enough into the individual constituencies. He also predicted at the time that the SLP would have won up to 14 seats in the 17-seat parliament, and no fewer than 11.””

        This man is always wrong, he is the laughing stock of St. Lucia.

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  12. Shara G.
    Shara G. December 21, 2017 at 7:03 am

    “The Prime Minister doesn’t apply any political nuance to anything that he is doing – not on the economy, not on his leadership to his colleagues or how he treats his Cabinet. He is basically a very limited constitutionalist and will basically do what the constitution says in a very plastic way. On the other side, it is a kind of cheap way of holding on to power.

    “In addition, he has not shown any creativity in terms of reshuffling his Cabinet. There is nothing of that style. There is no surprise in his politics,” a critical Joseph said.

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  13. Skilnic Skyy
    Skilnic Skyy December 21, 2017 at 7:07 am

    The man has NO ideas or innovation & is the poorest leader of all time. Anybody defending this performance gotta be getting paid & brain dead

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    • Charles Mitchell
      Charles Mitchell December 21, 2017 at 8:31 am

      Worse than SANDIFORD!!!!!!

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    • Alicia G. Burton
      Alicia G. Burton December 21, 2017 at 9:06 am

      Charles Mitchell Big Man, even Sandiford ask how BIM get back to this STATE. If Sandiford can say that, well ya know it BAD.

      Reply
    • Mukthar Patterson
      Mukthar Patterson December 21, 2017 at 11:50 am

      Worse than that

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  14. fedup December 21, 2017 at 7:18 am

    Gine STILL lose!!

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  15. luther thorne December 21, 2017 at 7:20 am

    What he is doing does not look good. It smacks of insensitivity and a lack of true statesmanshiip, it demontrates a love of self and not of Country. This is like the Captain running away from the Ship.

    In this case he is running away from making the right decision.

    Law or not , there comes a time when guage the situation and make decisions based on love of country and not love of self. If this is what he portrays in this situation, one can easily generalize to other situations and conclude that in other situations a similar thing happens. This is no great strategy, its just inertia and selfishness and insensitive. Maybe this is why there is no first lady
    in Illaro Court. It is about ‘me.’
    Elections need to be called now and the people of the Country need to send a message to the Politicians that Politicians are Servants of the people not the Masters. Disgusting !!
    and this is why like I said in another comment he could make the statement that he sleeps and sleeps and nobody is breaking up his night rest unlike Errol Walton who said that he used to sleep 3 hours a night and would be awake early in the morning ” tweaking” not “tweeting” things and working for the betterment of the Country.

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    • Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 11:20 am

      Luther, one of these days you are going to write something that makes sense.

      I will hold on until then.

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  16. Sam Clarke December 21, 2017 at 7:24 am

    This is also about having members of parliament qualify for pensions, that if elections are called now, they would not qualify .
    This is what inept petty dictators of banana republics will do.
    all you have to do not is to watch the money flow, to whom and from whom.

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  17. Greengiant December 21, 2017 at 7:26 am

    Why does the pollsters think the PM will be holding onto power at his own peril?

    The extending of the election date to the full period allowed within the constitution can also create advantages.

    1. The final demise of the opposition leader’s credibility.
    2. Her removal by her own sitting MP’s.
    3. Increased mileage by the other parties, causing a reduction in
    BLP votes.
    4. Changes to the economy financially, as the government already
    starts to give the workers some money.

    Who says the advantages will be against government? They can be advantages in either direction depending on how the current unpredictable political environment plays out.

    Therefore, the only seemingly desperate persons are the political scientists and I am wondering why? They too like I do know that a year in politics can be a very long day. So actually six months can be a long morning or evening, depending on the political decisions you make.

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    • harry turnover December 21, 2017 at 8:15 am

      Greengiant I would also ask that question…..BUT for the following
      Are those Pollsters saying then that IF the PM was to call elections NOW that DEM have a GOOD chance of winning…but by delaying they have a good chance of losing ?
      Most people are saying ..if they call it now the DEMS WILL LOSE and if they go down to the wire they will still LOSE.
      Stuart simply wants to be called PRIME MINISTER for the MAXIMUM TIME….ya mean after ALL this time wunna don’t know Freundel Stuart yet ?

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  18. Bajan USA December 21, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Let me tell you all this. Wait until next year. All kind if goodie going fly. People going start seeing check in the mail. Roads going get pave over. Old folk going get more money. Lot’s of love going be in an abundant. Then in the heat of cropover when everyone is parting…de P.M going drop a cropover micky on you all.cause de young people dont care about any politics. Them care about fete. Mark my words.

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  19. Winnie Meade
    Winnie Meade December 21, 2017 at 7:59 am

    Look to blp just be ready it can be annytime it cannot be another 9years it got to be call this year

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  20. Ralph W Talma December 21, 2017 at 8:10 am

    1.You know something @Bajan USA, you just made me laugh; (well done and VMT) because I remember my Father saying nearly the same things many moons’ ago, before a certain election the DLP was supposed to lose. What happened? the people, like hungry fish, took the bait, not realising what was about to happen some months later. All that’s missing now are the variety of old rum shops where much business and chicanery took place. Ah, the good old days. Really? Let us hope the people have learnt from past mistakes.
    2. The BLP must now be on guard on all fronts, just in case the PM is bluffing.

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    • harry turnover December 21, 2017 at 8:21 am

      Bluffing or not…the BEES have ALL their candidates in place. DEM still in know who RUNNING or who gine RUN AWAY in 3 constituencies

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  21. luther thorne December 21, 2017 at 8:37 am

    The fact of the matter is that the DLP does not deserve a 3rd Term. Simple !

    You are not given a 3rd Term. You must earn it !

    The DLP has not earned a 3rd Term.Simple. CALL DE FRIGGIN ELECTIONS.

    FREUNDEL SAYS he dont read Newspapers or social media so someone needs to get this message to him

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  22. luther thorne December 21, 2017 at 8:48 am

    An ABSENTEE PM
    A VAMPIRE PRIME MINISTER who sleeps and sleeps and wakes up only to suck the blood of life out of the people’s Hopes and Dreams.

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  23. Princess M R Charles
    Princess M R Charles December 21, 2017 at 9:02 am

    The primary minister needs to know when to quit and stop being so wicked and cravishious the people don’t want him anymore and he still holding on

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  24. islandgal December 21, 2017 at 9:05 am

    The PM is the least productive person in his cabinet along with the MOF, MOH, MOT, to name a few. He is by far the worst PM Barbados has ever had. Under his lead he has sunk Barbados to the bottom of the toilet and will sadly remain there in years to come. He has never addressed the serious problem plaguing the south coast that is now filled with tourist endangering their health and those of Bajans. This will damage Barbados beyond repair. He is not concerned with what is happening to our country nor how our country is perceived abroad. What a sad state this island has come to.

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  25. kk December 21, 2017 at 9:17 am

    i personally don’t see anything wrong with him “going down to the wire”, nor can i remember anybody freaking out when Owen do the same, far as i see he just going till the time that he int supposed to go no more, my thing is, “down to the wire or not he AIN’T getting back the position anyway so who really cares??

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  26. kk December 21, 2017 at 9:19 am

    and like i suggested before, MPS, KEEP OFF D PEOPLE SOCIAL MEDIA WUNNA BECOMING NUISANCES!!!!!

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  27. Antonio Cozier
    Antonio Cozier December 21, 2017 at 9:47 am

    This is a wicked and vindictive moves initiated only to fill one’s pocket with more of the taxpayers money

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  28. Bajan USA December 21, 2017 at 10:21 am

    A little birdie tell me the barbados going electronic voting next year. No more X. The election commission still testing those machines in secret. You all newer hear the ” He who controls the system guarantee the results. So if a fellow win by 6.500 votes when they is only. 7.000 voters register don’t blame de P.M

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  29. Peter Lowe
    Peter Lowe December 21, 2017 at 10:31 am

    If they get one more term we can all pack our bags and go live some where else…..Barbados will be dead and bury..they are the worst politicians that ever run this country

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    • Shelley Howard
      Shelley Howard December 21, 2017 at 1:54 pm

      About the packin of bags and shifting was what i just not too long mention to someone. Just gotta b careful where you run to. #butseebouthay

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    • Peter Lowe
      Peter Lowe December 21, 2017 at 2:04 pm

      Ok…but that’s how I see it. There’s no hope with these people

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  30. Lauretta Smith
    Lauretta Smith December 21, 2017 at 10:46 am

    Some people are devoted dems so they dont see the suffering

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  31. Mack December 21, 2017 at 11:15 am

    The PM rides around in a $700.000 Big ride, eat the best, travel at the tax payers expense, live at two houses and enjoy the admiration of single women who are looking for a husband.

    Why should he give this up??? Would You???

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  32. Mack December 21, 2017 at 11:20 am

    The PM is riding a gravie train the complements of tax payers. He will not get off until it come to the end of the line.

    So just hold on the end of the line is near!!!!

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  33. Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 11:22 am

    One thing about you BLP operatives, you like to count your chickens before they are hatched.

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  34. Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 11:25 am

    DEMS NOW

    DEMS AGAIN

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  35. Maureen Straker
    Maureen Straker December 21, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Five years is five years he is within his rights read the constitution

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    • Peter Lowe
      Peter Lowe December 21, 2017 at 2:08 pm

      You seem to enjoy hardship, being talk down to and torture

      Reply
  36. Stephen D Stewart
    Stephen D Stewart December 21, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Lucky we are Barbados, and not Zimbabwe….he would never leave…

    A summer election will be a even bigger disaster for DEM than a winter one…..

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  37. Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    As the old Bajans used to say:

    A RIDDLE, A RIDDLE A REE!!

    Which female BLP parliamentarian canvass against Mascol and pay out nuff money in the constituency so that Chris Sinckler could win the seat This was after Owen Arthur announced Mascol as “”Co-Leader””of the BLP and not her????

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  38. Joe Blow December 21, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    I agree with you Green Giant. The longer the DLP waits to call the elections, the more ground the independent parties will gain, which will negatively impact the BLP’s chances of being elected. The DLP knows they are out next election. Everyone nows that, but they don’t want to hand the government over to the BLP either. It will also give the DLP time to try to make some last minute fixes before the bell rings in order to save a few seats and at least keep a few members in the House of assembly. All will be for nothing. Time is like twine. By June 5th 2018 we will have a new government, that is for sure. Only a war or serious civil unrest can extend their time by up to 12 months according to our constitution. So let the PM enjoy his perks for another 6 months, retirement coming soon.

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    • Carson C Cadogan December 21, 2017 at 5:58 pm

      A comment full of wishful thinking!!!!

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  39. Walter Prescod December 21, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    A party that has done no good for the needy of the country is afraid of the no confidence vote.
    Look a bit like D.T.

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  40. Observer December 21, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    I could not agree more with your statement. The Prime Minister is not breaking the law. He has to call the right to call the election as stated in the constitution. Please stop being so emotional. Stop attacking the person and deal with the law. I have news for you, Ms. Motley will not be the saviour you may think. Barbados will grow again but it will take some time. There is no magic bullet

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  41. Belnando Weekes
    Belnando Weekes December 21, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    Can’t be shameful. There are laws that govern these things, once he is within the law then he is doing fine.

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  42. Michael Parris
    Michael Parris December 21, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    He was elected to serve for five years and that is what he intends to do . He won’t be elected again so let him be . He will be gone in a few. Months.

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  43. Patrick December 21, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    Failed politician in St. Lucia, singing for his supper in another country

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  44. straight talk December 21, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    wire or no wire he have to call elections at some time and I want all thee selfish wicked don’t carish f#&kers vote out. every one

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  45. Anonymous December 21, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Tennyson. Liar liar pants on fire

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  46. Mark Adamson December 22, 2017 at 1:39 am

    Dr. Tennyson Joseph is really making a non-point here.

    Would not Joseph have had something better to do than be commenting on such foolishness??

    Perhaps he would have come across better had he been asked to comment on the following:

    1) Fixed Date National Elections;

    2) The election of an Executive Coalitional Government;

    3) A Recall System for all persons elected to the Executive
    Coalitional Cabinet or the Legislature;

    4) Establishing a Proportional Representational System as a basis for election to the Cabinet of Barbados;

    5) Legislation providing for the Registration of Political Parties;

    Which ideological and philosophical causes are Dr. Joseph really advancing in Barbados??

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  47. Mark Adamson December 22, 2017 at 2:01 am

    ….causes is Dr. Joseph…

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  48. Adrian Hinds December 22, 2017 at 11:45 am

    The process sucks – no fix date for elections – but it is being observed. Why fault the PM for following the current law? Are we not a nation of laws?

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  49. Helicopter(8P) December 23, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    What would you say if Prime Minister Stuart rode on horseback as President Forbes Burhnam did ?

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