Time for removal of Nelson’s statue

I have followed with great interest the debate on calls to remove the statue of Lord Nelson from its prominent position in our capital city.

As a student of History, I know of no good reason to keep the British warrior and staunch defender of the enslavement of Black people there as a constant reminder of the grave injustice meted out to our fore-parents.

I am disappointed, but not surprised, that so many of our white brothers and sisters are unable to understand why the statue is likely to offend the majority population. Of course, there are some Afro-Barbadians who erroneously believe that Nelson “saved” Barbados from the “wicked” French.

My friend, Trevor Marshall, has already debunked that theory, so I will not bother to repeat his arguments. Suffice it to say that the Admiral was no friend of Barbados, and certainly cared nothing about the enslaved negroes.

I can quickly dismiss the simplistic view that the presence of Nelson attracts British tourists who will stop coming if his statue no longer adorns, or should I say despoils, Bridgetown.

The second argument used is that to move the Englishman would be tantamount to destroying part of our History. Well, it is sometimes necessary to rid oneself of something which is an affront to one’s dignity and feeling of self- worth. Why should we pay homage to a British war lord whose burning desire was to keep persons of our race in perpetual bondage? Even in the racist United States, there are moves to pull down the statues representing hate and division from the Civil War era.

Nor should we be deterred by the specious argument that taking down Nelson today will set a bad precedent which could lead to a future generation wanting to dismantle the statues of His Excellency, Sir Grantley Adams, or Errol Barrow, for example. I desperately hope that those who express such views are not putting Nelson in the same category as our illustrious national heroes.

They actually made outstanding contributions to Barbados, and Barbadians of the future will be able to read of their exploits. I doubt whether sane people would contemplate getting rid of the statues of such great Barbadians. On the other hand, could Dr Karl Watson, Richard Hoad and other ardent defenders of Nelson tell me where I can find documentation to support the work done by the Admiral on behalf of this blessed isle?

If they are able to do so, I will shut up and offer humble apologies to them. Further, the next time I pass by Lord Nelson, I will bow to him. The discussion regarding Nelson is really one about the definition of who we are as a people. I do not support the defacement of any public monument, but, perhaps, some good will come out of the unlawful action – a re-opening of a necessary debate on what it means to be a sovereign nation.

Together with the removal of a man who can never be our hero, we need to move without further delay to Republican Status. I assure sceptics that neither of these two actions will cause the sky to fall on little Barbados. Rather, the result may well be self- respect for a people who, unfortunately, still cling to a colonial “heritage”

We spent the first fifty years of Independence with one leg still firmly planted on British colonial soil. Let us now make a clean break and see ourselves as a proud people who truly know who we are.

Let Nelson go!

Source: John Goddard

147 Responses to Time for removal of Nelson’s statue

  1. Wayne Spooner
    Wayne Spooner December 6, 2017 at 11:35 am

    Stop!! just stop you getting stupid like these americans now.

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    • Joy Wharton
      Joy Wharton December 6, 2017 at 12:01 pm

      No! he should be placed in the museum! That’s not being stupid, it’s called being “Awoke” but I don’t believe it should be vandalized

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    • David Aswad Alleyne
      David Aswad Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      Mis educated Wayne!

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    • Kevin Plowden
      Kevin Plowden December 6, 2017 at 12:25 pm
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    • Devonte Mccollin
      Devonte Mccollin December 6, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      All these white women you on the beach with got you head bewitch, don’t be an Uncle Tom.

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    • Julian Alleyne
      Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      Stephen D Stewart.. How are bajans following Americans by wanting Nelson removed?

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    • Bryan L
      Bryan L'Ecuyer December 6, 2017 at 2:36 pm

      Joy Wharton Being Awoke ? It’s 2017 now. I don’t get it

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    • Julian Alleyne
      Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      ^being awoke means being conscious of certain issues. What does it being 2017 have to do anything with it? Please dont tell me ‘ oh slavery was a long time ago’ … dont even go there…

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    • Kito Codrington
      Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:37 pm

      Divide and trivialize…smdh

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  2. Steve Iso
    Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 11:44 am

    Stupid!! You better stop,who wants a constant reminder of white supremacy and the atrocities of slavery in the middle if their town square..

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    • Lennox Phillips
      Lennox Phillips December 6, 2017 at 12:15 pm

      Lets go all the way and Take down everything that called for killing white people

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    • Steve Iso
      Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      what the hell are talking about ? who said anything about killing anybody ,brother stay far from the drinks ..

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    • Ali Baba
      Ali Baba December 6, 2017 at 5:59 pm

      agree

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    • Ali Baba
      Ali Baba December 6, 2017 at 6:00 pm

      yep

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  3. Cisne Pascal
    Cisne Pascal December 6, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Yay! Replace it with one of the Hon. Errol Barriw!

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    • Michael Crichlow
      Michael Crichlow December 6, 2017 at 11:59 am

      Gearbox would be fitting. And bring Bulldog too..this is the most stupid protest ever
      Be careful not to mistake insecurity and inadequacy for humility! Humility has nothing to do with the insecure and inadequate! Just like arrogance has nothing to do with greatness!

      C. JoyBell C.

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    • Cisne Pascal
      Cisne Pascal December 6, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      Are you one of those people who when anybody else disagrees with you, you get salty and start calling them nasty names? Argue your position not the person of a differing view.

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  4. Kareem Rayside
    Kareem Rayside December 6, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    Gotta hope it dont cost millions to move

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    • Ashanda Coward
      Ashanda Coward December 6, 2017 at 12:12 pm

      Exactly

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    • Risko Gill
      Risko Gill December 6, 2017 at 2:19 pm
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    • Ras Small
      Ras Small December 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm

      Way wunna get dat pricing?!
      A whole building does get tek down in a day and all it requires is two/3 persons and a JCB. 1

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    • Gillian Skeete
      Gillian Skeete December 6, 2017 at 6:30 pm

      Noel ‘Noelito’ Murrell nothing in Barbados is free not one thing except the air we breathe…. for now soon sinklow will try taxing that too!

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  5. McNeil Evablaze
    McNeil Evablaze December 6, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    The tearing down of a statue does not change the mindset of a nation enshrouded by the Willie Lynch syndrome #ijs

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    • Marsha Hinds
      Marsha Hinds December 6, 2017 at 12:48 pm

      It is a start… we must start.

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    • McNeil Evablaze
      McNeil Evablaze December 6, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      Yes but is this the place to really make a start? What about out Primary Schools and the rhetoric our kids are being taught?

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    • Steve Iso
      Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      yeah ? well it removes the constant reminder of such by seeing it . If i had a big bad dog and you pass by my house and it attacked and severed a part of your foot , wouldnt you passing by and seeing my dog be a constant reminder of the attack ?

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    • McNeil Evablaze
      McNeil Evablaze December 6, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      Ok let’s be honest here bro more than half of our country don’t even know what that statue stood for especially the youth so seeing it to them was never a reminder of anything but a statue. The youth are going to shape our future and we must un-brainwash them first for the tide to change

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    • McNeil Evablaze
      McNeil Evablaze December 6, 2017 at 1:35 pm

      Ask the politicio

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    • McNeil Evablaze
      McNeil Evablaze December 6, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      Listen I’m all for pride and industry but how could we be proud of the subtle tyrannical form of governance? A governance that is for the people is something to be proud of.

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    • Steve Iso
      Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      You my friend are deflecting from the issue at hand. You are trying to make this political …Who is saying its the reason this country is bankrupt ? You and others are behaving as though this argument has just begun. This has been an ongoing argument for ages not just because of the defacing recently .Come on don try that . Its been there to long. How is American culture the problem Barbados has ? im confused by that statement . All over the world ppl are demonstrating or have demonstrated their disgust against statues that represents or represented oppression or some form of supremacy .look what they did to saddam’s in Iraq . You dont like the government ,fine im sure you will exercise you right of choice come next year. One day we will have a government the will have the balls not just spend alott of tax payers money turning him around which was folly but to remove him period. Put him on the screw docks looking out to sea i think he would like that being an admiral and all …

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    • Steve Iso
      Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      McNeil Evablaze quantify your statement . Have you done a poll or census ? I agree that the youth will lead the way in the future , so what you are saying that we do not educate them about our history .So when my child goes for a job and realizes that the fairer skinned girl or white gets the pick because of skin color and she cant understand why ,should i tell her its because of nothing? And please try not to pivot .That was just by the way . My friend those who forget their history will someday be doomed to repeat it . Slavery again is happening across certain continents . check it out .Please tell me what you meant by un-brainwashing the youth cause im interested to know …

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    • McNeil Evablaze
      McNeil Evablaze December 6, 2017 at 2:21 pm

      I’m not an analyst sir I’m a realest so quantifying and doing a census is not my speciality. Pivoting is exactly what this distraction is doing to the clear fact that leaving up or tearing down this or any other monument is not going to steer this country in the right direction. You kids like mine are not going to be guided by race unless they are taught to. My aim is to get to the real issues in this country we all are proud of. This energy being given to this statue is only pivoting from the real social woes and issues. To me, it’s irrelevant and that is just my opinion .

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    • Kito Codrington
      Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      Make Nelson great again! Put him in a dark museum and charge £20 a view

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  6. Beige Jann December 6, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    NO WAY JACK! Unless you going put ANOTHER WHITE MAN STATUE IN ITS PLACE LIKE JOHN WESLEY who helped Free the Black Slaves That would make him a HERO Or the reason is Just that Nelson is White!Hey, the Black Minority in the states protest statues and get their way! How about the White heroes names on Cenotaph !?You HISTORY is selective and incorrect!so because the masses are black that and it should be a BLACK DICTATORSHIP ATTITUDE !?

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  7. Noel
    Noel 'Noelito' Murrell December 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    Yes…it needs to now. Is having it remain there even a boost to Bajan tourism? I’d wager that it is not.

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  8. Beige Jann December 6, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    Barbados was colonized by The English Nelson was English and its a beautiful statue unlike the other ones around !BIMSHIRE COUNTRY OF ENGLAND is THE HISTORY, ST Bernard! YOU OR MARSHALL CAN”T CHANGE THAT!Barbados was GIVEN INDEPENDENCE IT DID NOT FIGHT A WAR FOR IT!SO HERO FOR YOUR HEROES IS A MISUSE OF THE WORD FOR ME! BUT I HAVE MY OWN MIND NOT GOING TRY TO CONVINCE YOU OF IT!SO DON”T TRY TO CONVINCE ME!

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  9. Brian Gill
    Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 12:24 pm

    Barbados was founded by the British. Erasing historical figures because they don’t fit into today’s moral standards is absurd. To say a statue is a reminder of slavery is the statue of the slave breaking his chains not the same. ? If the British did not partake in the sinful act of slavery how many of the complainers would be alive and called Bajan today? Learn from history, don’t rewrite it.

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    • Rudy Griffith
      Rudy Griffith December 6, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      Strong point…..potent argument.

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 12:34 pm

      Oh I guess black people are all that matters?

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    • Ayo-Ololara Ifeoma Nomande
      Ayo-Ololara Ifeoma Nomande December 6, 2017 at 1:01 pm

      Julian Roderick Pile never did

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    • Steve Iso
      Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 1:16 pm

      brother one represents freedom , i guess you dont get the breaking of the chains .The other which stands boldly in my town square is representing what black ppl understands through the same history you mis represented in your post “OPPRESSION” back then not today ,, Get in the know or you better go ask somebody

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 1:29 pm

      Are you oppressed? To me all that is happening all over the western world is bleeding hearts trying to point the finger at things they think hold them back. The things that must make them make bad choices. Much easier to blame history then selves. If you can honestly look at a statue and be reminded of something like slavery like you lived it, then I think you need help. No historical figure any where on earth was perfect. Black, white, purple or brown. To judge in today’s moral standards is wrong.

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 1:43 pm

      Maybe they should put a statue of John Powell. The first brit. Or would that be racist and remind you of slavery?

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    • Julian Alleyne
      Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 1:50 pm

      Brian Gill. You should read more. If you really think “that all that is happening in the western world is bleeding hearts trying to point a finger at things that hold them back”. The mere fact that you think that nelson and bussa are remotely comparable is not only sad but ignorant

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 1:54 pm

      They are not. Nelson is not there because of slavery. Bussa is. Nelson is there because the British see him as a war hero. Bussa is a symbol of ending slavery.

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 1:56 pm

      That said, what statue is a reminder of oppression?

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    • Julian Alleyne
      Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 1:56 pm

      Trust me im aware. Nelson was a war ‘hero’ but he was 1. Notoriously against the abolition of slavery and 2. Why would you have such a figure in INDEPENDENCE square? Why should he be there?

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    • Julian Alleyne
      Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 1:58 pm

      I dont understand your question. How can you ask what statue is a reminder of oppression? Statues are symbolic in nature.

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    • Romena Bruce
      Romena Bruce December 6, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      Brian Gill yes

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    • Romena Bruce
      Romena Bruce December 6, 2017 at 2:04 pm

      Brian Gill yes, we are

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    • Romena Bruce
      Romena Bruce December 6, 2017 at 2:04 pm

      Brian Gill you’re a pos

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      Why have any statue of a person. At some point in the future they will look at the bad they did and judge them on the morals of the day.

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 2:18 pm

      Pos?

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    • Julian Alleyne
      Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      Brian.. you are looking at this from the wrong angle. It’s not merely a statue of nelson in and of itself. It’s a stautue of what he and others of that era represented. Not to metion where the statue is located.

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    • Brian Gill
      Brian Gill December 6, 2017 at 2:54 pm

      I respect your view. Julian. I do have to agree with you on why is it where it is. I don’t agree that it’s a symbol of slavery. Really I don’t know why it’s even him. I am more disappointed that bim has fallen suit with other places and trying to remove history that might make some feel guilty or remind them the past was unpleasant. Every culture has had dreadful experiences at the hands of another. If not for those reasons I would not be able to say with pride my ancestors ended up in bim because of British brutality.

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    • Julian Roderick Pile
      Julian Roderick Pile December 6, 2017 at 4:10 pm

      The only statue I want to be seen made is to represent all of her mothers and sisters who were raped and abused during slavery. Who has giving you the opportunity to sit here and talk about the greatness of the British Empire. Their sacrifices were made so all of us live today not the statue you want to worship.The true heroes of slavery or black women don’t you ever forget it make a statue for them

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    • Maurice Tribaltheadventurer Durant
      Maurice Tribaltheadventurer Durant December 6, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      Well you should do some research, the reason it is him is why they’ve been campaigning to have him removed in the first place, in ireland they blew up his statue a few decades ago

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    • Kito Codrington
      Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:39 pm

      Apologists just love to trivialize smdh

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    • Joshua Clarke
      Joshua Clarke December 6, 2017 at 4:45 pm

      Lots of people of the time knew slavery was wrong – especially the slaves, so the whole “cant judge people of the past by present day morals” argument is absurd

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  10. Ashlee Nicholle
    Ashlee Nicholle December 6, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    Erase history,reinvent the past

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  11. Robert Holloway
    Robert Holloway December 6, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    Would that mean Antigua might have to rename its dockyard then,, Is it the name or the statue which is offensive .. http://www.visitantiguabarbuda.com/travel-directory/nelsons-dockyard/

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  12. Jerry Tilitz
    Jerry Tilitz December 6, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    Take pride in your history and culture whether black or white because a part of your history Nelson will surely remain no matter what you do with the statute. I would put a bright light on it with a plaque explaining the Barbados was a proud and contributing member of the commonwealth but now the island goes its own way. Maybe this is too much to ask at the moment in view of all the racial tension in the US but one could hope that bajans are beyond all that.

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  13. Peter R Rock
    Peter R Rock December 6, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    All the statues in Barbados want taking down not only Nelson we must stop worshiping these man made Gods

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    • Crystalene Alexander
      Crystalene Alexander December 6, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      Agree…I honestly have never been able to comprehend why people are always jumping to erect statues of past or present people!!…to serve what purpose….a plaque in a museum is enough…what statue what!!

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    • Reuben Yarde
      Reuben Yarde December 6, 2017 at 4:35 pm

      Are you a clown box

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  14. Dominna Queeny Gaskin
    Dominna Queeny Gaskin December 6, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    The time you “black” people take to remember the bad and the ugly please keep in mind it’s history and is meant to teach and nothing more keeping your minds always captive doesn’t really work does it…….. Leave the dam statue alone it will only affect free your minds and study something else……. Like being the best you can be against all odds and in BIM there is a lot right now…… It history and not our future

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    • Cathy-ann Brathwaite
      Cathy-ann Brathwaite December 6, 2017 at 1:19 pm

      I agree
      Unless we know our history we are doomed to repeat it. Leave the statues. Teach the kids what they mean. Teach them about the struggles our forefathers had as many of them are unaware of them and they no longer have the appreciation for the ‘freedoms’ we have now because they are not aware of history. This argument is irrelevant and a red herring we need to focus on bringing Barbados out of the quagmire that we are presently in. Nelson is a symbol of our past but if we don’t focus he might be a symbol of our future.

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    • Ronald Greenidge
      Ronald Greenidge December 6, 2017 at 2:23 pm

      exactly nicole clarke some of the people here is something else, jews went afther those who oppress them during the holacost, every nook and cranny they turned over to get those people, usa is battling with the losing south who erected statues gloriying they losing soldiers, all across the color divide the people oppressed have either taking down statues or in conversations to do chinese havenot forgotten japan, the only people who have an issue with it is our own yet we had the longest and most brutual treatment in history, only barbados i say

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    • Cathy-ann Brathwaite
      Cathy-ann Brathwaite December 6, 2017 at 5:09 pm

      Ronald Greenidge the problem I see is that if we remove the symbols of our oppression the mere fact that slavery occurred might be erased. Look carefully and note that the holocaust is revered, however whenever slavery is mentioned we are told to forget it. We walk a thin line with destroying these symbols as we face erasing the evidence that it happened and therefore diminishing the importance of our history. It is a toss up. I would like him gone however I know that he is a constant reminder of what we must NEVER forget. That is what I fear more than him being there in perpetuity!!! We are between the devil and the deep blue sea.

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    • Ronald Greenidge
      Ronald Greenidge December 6, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      Cathy-ann Brathwaite i am for the discussion, i can see reason why some might want total removal, i remember in india bombay was capital name until they change a slew of names there and in pakistan, the experience of slavery will never be forgotten,

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    • Gillian Skeete
      Gillian Skeete December 6, 2017 at 6:22 pm

      Ronald Greenidge I was going to say don’t forget history of India and slavery there too.

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    • Gillian Skeete
      Gillian Skeete December 6, 2017 at 6:36 pm

      Cathy-ann Brathwaite stick him in a museum and charge the max for tourists to see him equal to 20£ as was suggested. Let him make barbados some money he stands there doing nothing lol

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  15. Michael J. Koeiman
    Michael J. Koeiman December 6, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    Alicia Archer

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  16. Cheryl Carter
    Cheryl Carter December 6, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    Will thw removal of Nelson cause us black Bajans to love and care for each other? Yes…Then go right ahead and remove him

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  17. nanci December 6, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    some black people want Nelson to stay in downtown barbados, but thats because they dont care what Nelson did to black people back then. The government are the ones to remove this statue. People over look their history, and will honor this slave owner and saw nothing wrong with people being slaves. Some people will never learn, and they will pander to the abusers. Its also an honor to have Nelson standing downtown to please the British people, but they can take Nelson and have him in England. Its no use him being erected in barbados, he cared less about the slaves and human beings that he over looked their plight

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  18. jrsmith December 6, 2017 at 1:03 pm

    Its about time we go all the way, removing what ever is white from our black surroundings, so go into the churches and remove all pictures of the blonde hair blue eyed man call Jesus and replace them with our own black Jesus … Nelson Mandela…… ……Amen……………..

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  19. nanci December 6, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Nelson is history yes, but a bad part of our history. Some people hate change, if people dont see nothing wrong with barbados worshiping Nelson, then that means they dont love themselves, they love to please the whites. It should have been destroyed a long time ago.

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  20. Charles Atkins
    Charles Atkins December 6, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    I didn’t see who painted it; but I can clearly see who is cleaning it.
    Why weren’t there 10 caucasians volunteers up there wiping his awesome angelic ass.

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  21. Heru Adetokunbo Baako
    Heru Adetokunbo Baako December 6, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    Reading these comments near make me blow a fuse! I think my only comment is, are they any monuments praising people that played integral roles in the holocaust? I bet not, and I stand to be corrected! I see people saying we following the us blindly, this has been a public issue for years……..YEARS!!!!! Being proud of colonialism is definitely not something we be happy about! Anybody that equates the emancipation monument to one that upheld slavery and colonialism is not only offensive, but very clearly misinformed! If the whites and white apologists loves the statue so bad, then put it in the museum area, close to George Washington house, considering they both stood for the same ideology! Yes our history is laden with colonialism, plantation owners, and slavery, but I dare to say I demand to be treated with the same way we treat the Jews after their plight! I will not sit nor be quiet until the plight of African people is acknowledged and remnants of that horrid past is not written off as some trivial argument. ………..how dare any person, specifically of African descent utter the words get over it! Every single one of you are the reason that we continued to be looked at as a laughing stock!

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    • Steve Iso
      Steve Iso'lene Yarde December 6, 2017 at 1:32 pm

      Well said Heru….Tottaly i agreement

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    • Valerie Knight
      Valerie Knight December 6, 2017 at 2:10 pm

      Who is looking at Bajans as a laughing stock? It’s all in your bloody minds. Get over the blasted statue and move on, should money be wasted moving a statue for the second time when the economy is in such a bad state. Think of the blasted roads that are so bad, the children going to school hungry, the QEH that still have the same bloody beds since the day the doors opened, these are things that matter.

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    • Heru Adetokunbo Baako
      Heru Adetokunbo Baako December 6, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      Clearly you have an issue with simple comprehension….. ….I never said bajans, I said people of African descent! So clearly Valerie you have read to respond, and that is what is fundamentally wrong with most of you! Roads are bad, QEH still bad, and these are things that have been plaguing this island FOR YEARS!!!!! Yet we refuse to hold the politicians we elected accountable for their inadequacy! Cornbeef and biscuit partisan politics will ensure that all those things you mentioned endures til I’m a pensioner! None of this has anything to do with this particular issue! I actually nearly cuss! NO! I WILL NOT GET OVER ANYTHING! I ALSO WILL NOT BE SILENCED!!! Black people are asked to be quiet and get over every single injustice done to us, and any form of injustice should be destroyed………and the upholding of colonialism, chattel slavery should never be praised in 2017! So yes, it’s in my bloody mind, what was done to my people is always on my mind, if you guys want to see an improvement in the quality of social services and infrastructure, start holding elected officials across the aisle accountable for the things they say they’re going to do!

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  22. Marc Monee
    Marc Monee December 6, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    Who give u the right to tell the people of Barbados to move on when your fore fathers stole, enslaved and murdered them, we as a people have to decide our own future and we choose not to have statues of our oppressors standing over us.

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  23. Grace Straughan
    Grace Straughan December 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    I applaud Cheryl Carter for her comment. Please use the money to help the less fortunate in the island. He was standing there for decades and as far back as
    I remember when they spent a large amount of money to turn him around to face the inland revenue department building, some of those same people said in doing so caused the money to disappear. Remember our thoughts are very powerful and our words even more so. Fight for something more important.Please

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  24. Glenn Damon Clarke
    Glenn Damon Clarke December 6, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Barbados will be in the same position whether the statue remains there or not…
    We won’t get any richer, or gain peace of mind, or feel any safer, or pay more or less taxes, or able to buy more at the supermarket. To the majority of Bajans, this statue is just an ornament that has been there all our lives, and we don’t give two wuck ups about it. If anything I’d care about how much money it would cost to remove / replace it.

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    • Epaphras D. Williams
      Epaphras D. Williams December 6, 2017 at 2:09 pm

      Real talk

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    • Sonia Bragg
      Sonia Bragg December 6, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      Thank you for this comment Glenn …..thank you

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    • Bernard Mccollin
      Bernard Mccollin December 6, 2017 at 2:30 pm

      Right on

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    • Kimeko Gittens
      Kimeko Gittens December 6, 2017 at 3:33 pm

      I second that

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    • Eddy Murray
      Eddy Murray December 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      Glenn, that is why nothing will ever change if that is the mind set that people like you and all the rest that support you. I just saw the President that most people hate so much making Jerusalem the capital of Israel, after trying for years to do so.

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    • Kito Codrington
      Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:38 pm

      It’s bigger than the money tbh

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    • Epaphras D. Williams
      Epaphras D. Williams December 6, 2017 at 4:42 pm

      We want to change what matters. Africa has over 3000 tribes and they don’t all get along. The infighting is going to destroy us. Look, Eddy put some funds aside to help rejected African children get a good education, a square meal, a decent mattress, vaccines. Let’s change children’s lives

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    • Jeff Dalley
      Jeff Dalley December 6, 2017 at 6:23 pm

      I’ll do it for free.

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  25. Keoma Mallett December 6, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Any part of our history that was oppressive or dehumanising does not deserse to be part of our present or future, in theory, practice, policy, or symbol. There is simply no room for this. It is a mockery of our humanity – black or white.

    To expect people to be okay with Nelson’s statue being there, given what it represents, is madness.

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  26. Nicole Clarke
    Nicole Clarke December 6, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Ppl like you need not rh speak on these issues.

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  27. Bryan L
    Bryan L'Ecuyer December 6, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Ya I was expecting this. I don’t have the right but I think it is ridiculous. Are you repressed now ? .. I love Barbados. Have many Bajan friend since I been going in the mid 1990s. They have no problems with it .. it was so long ago. Just my thoughts on it

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  28. Bryan L
    Bryan L'Ecuyer December 6, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    Nicole Clarke People like me ? Like what ? It’s just what happened so long ago , has nothing to do with today. Well put it a museum if it is taken down.

    Nicole you wouldn’t be related to a Wendell Clarke would you ? Junior ? That would be funny if you were.

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  29. Gail Laughlin Maskell
    Gail Laughlin Maskell December 6, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    Before moving Nelson PLEASE use the funds that it would cost and put it towards fixing the sewage problem. It’s a disgrace, and we all are likely to suffer from the filth that’s causing great concern health wise and to our tourism, if they stop coming WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO BARBADOS?????? WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO GENERATE $$$$$$$$$$

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  30. John Strutton
    John Strutton December 6, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    No-one can look back with favour on the era of slavery. If they do, there is something seriously wrong with them. However, it is equally important to retain perspective when looking back to that period in history. It should be remembered that in the era of Nelson, had he failed at Trafalgar the World would be a very different place. The people of Barbados would now be speaking French and enjoying all of the post French empire ante-colonial benefits enjoyed by islands such as Haiti. As in inadequate infrastructure and political instability. Perspective must be retained.

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    • Kito Codrington
      Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:30 pm

      /amp/s/www.alternet.org/world/how-america-and-rest-world-ruined-haiti%3famp

      Stop it..

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  31. Jade Clarke
    Jade Clarke December 6, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    About time. Now time to change the mindset and return to our original states

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  32. L.Allan Wilkie
    L.Allan Wilkie December 6, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    The writer deserves some merit. Sir eva was a RH.

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  33. Pete Howarth
    Pete Howarth December 6, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    Why ..it`s history part of the soul of Barbados.

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    • Kito Codrington
      Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      No mate

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    • Jerry Tilitz
      Jerry Tilitz December 6, 2017 at 5:31 pm

      Remove the statue and Bridgetown loses an anchor to its unique and celebrated past without which the city parts with its soul and becomes just another Caribbean township. It’s your history that defines you. Jettison that and Bridgetown becomes just a 3rd rate Miami Beach.

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  34. Brian Killuminati Davis
    Brian Killuminati Davis December 6, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    who was Nelson

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  35. Tedford Grimes
    Tedford Grimes December 6, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    It was once featured on the jeopardy programme in the form of a question leave it alone

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  36. Betty Proverbs
    Betty Proverbs December 6, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Brain dead people exist today !

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  37. Alex Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    m
    My thing is, move Nelson to the museum and make some money off the dude. Someone tired talking so this time it’s paint on he ,next time when we pass by he might just be a “rock-pile”…………….
    Powers that be, ‘MAKE HASTE NO LONGER TARRY’.

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  38. Cherry Matunda Heri
    Cherry Matunda Heri December 6, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    How much is it going to cost to take down Nelson ?

    Are we removing Bussa as well?

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  39. Alex Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    the only clean break the Caribbean will have from England is floating out into the Atlantic without an oar.

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  40. Robbie-John Creole
    Robbie-John Creole December 6, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    Move it quick before it comes to some hysterical demise.

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  41. Kris Lorde
    Kris Lorde December 6, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Observer, the Negropeans and their master’s colonial symbolic champion of White Supremacy oppression over you blax lolol.

    Adrian Niel Rhaj Bajan

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  42. Kim Stone
    Kim Stone December 6, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    Now want to rob we again talking bout removing statue we wudda push it down every since fa free

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  43. Thomas Christopher Famous
    Thomas Christopher Famous December 6, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    If slavery never happened Africa would be the greatest continent on Earth.

    The Caribbean is but a fraction of a fraction of the African story.

    The white colonizers do not praise our heroes
    We should not praise their demons.

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  44. Cecil Mayers
    Cecil Mayers December 6, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    I don’t know but can some body tell me if there was talk of taking this down before it get defaced

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    • Maurice Tribaltheadventurer Durant
      Maurice Tribaltheadventurer Durant December 6, 2017 at 4:43 pm

      Yes people have been trying to get it removed for decades, it’s because of social media and the defacement the conversation is so strong but there have been a few national attempts to get it removed

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    • Cecil Mayers
      Cecil Mayers December 6, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      Ok cool I thought that foolish young ppl program them and get them own way cause dem would look like big fools

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  45. Julian Alleyne
    Julian Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    How will removing it cause you not to return to bdos?

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  46. Kito Codrington
    Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    Bryan L’Ecuyer Justin Trudeau disagrees tho…

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  47. Kito Codrington
    Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    Apologists assemble!

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  48. Kito Codrington
    Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    Don’t destroy Nelson, hide him in a dark and mouldy warehouse and charge all the “apologists” £20 a ticket to marvel at it’s greatness. Simple

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  49. Maurice Tribaltheadventurer Durant
    Maurice Tribaltheadventurer Durant December 6, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    You’re speaking on something that hasn’t negatively affected you or those before you, you’re out of place for speaking on this as if it is nothing, it is something you will never fully understand

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  50. Kito Codrington
    Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    Bryan L’Ecuyer but why? I love me some trudeau

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  51. Queen Nanny of the Maroons
    Queen Nanny of the Maroons December 6, 2017 at 4:47 pm

    REPARATIONS!!!!!!!

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  52. Kito Codrington
    Kito Codrington December 6, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    £50 to see it too

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  53. Epaphras D. Williams
    Epaphras D. Williams December 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    Let the Masons tell you what else Nelson is guarding. The entire city needs digging up. Let’s find out what they are hiding in Trafalgar Square.

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  54. Othneal December 6, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    John Goddard must be very frustrated on reading some of these crass comments in response to his excellent article. It is a fact of nature that not all are blessed with the intellectual capacity to reason beyond the level common among lower primates.
    Some contributor questioned whether this subject is worthy of discussion, and then goes on to “waste” his time commenting. Individuals like this would never appreciate the intellectual principle being discussed by Mr Goddard et al and is doomed to spend the rest of his life asking the “infantile” Why? Along with all the other dissectors
    For those who quibble about the expense, l would suggest that the British Government should pay for the removal and repatriation of the Statue. After emancipation, the British Government compensated slave owners for the loss of their ‘property’, Some received the equivalent of £98M. Our ancestors received not a penny. William Gladstone MP whose father owned 9 plantations, fought tooth and nail for compensation and won.
    Those who tell Black people to “get over it”are displaying racial bias or are simply ignorant. I suspect the latter have never set foot outside the Island. If they had they would known that the white man will never let us forget our past by constant reminders that the black man is inferior to him. That is a lie! We must demand our dignity.

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  55. Sean King
    Sean King December 6, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Time for the removal of the PM, not Nelson !!!Nelson is the not the one causing us pain and hardships .

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  56. Bajan Fari
    Bajan Fari December 6, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Stan weh yuh is …..indentured servant

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  57. Greta Nicholls
    Greta Nicholls December 6, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    Agreed!

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  58. Shai Akeem Collis
    Shai Akeem Collis December 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    You don’t have to have the queen as your head of state to be in the commonwealth

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  59. Doug Wilkinson
    Doug Wilkinson December 6, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    People . people , do not destroy your history , the liberals in the US are doing that but it is so wrong . History is what made you and your country what it is , a beautiful and peaceful island . You must realize that if you follow this pattern in 50 years the people of that time will be tearing down and throwing away what you are achieving now .

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  60. Ken Karp
    Ken Karp December 6, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    What benefits of ‘Commonwealth’ (pardon) trump true ideological independence?

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  61. Ras Small
    Ras Small December 6, 2017 at 5:55 pm
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  62. Brett Blades
    Brett Blades December 6, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    Those who come with the flimsy stance that it is history should transpose that argument to a statue of Hitler being erected or left erected in Berlin. Those who figure it’s not going to change history should ask if a representation of a positive figure wouldn’t be more worthy of the honor. If it doesn’t matter then it shouldn’t matter if it’s removed either. Those who figure that there are more pressing matters need to understand that the world doesn’t revolve around any one issue. Everything is of merit albeit not to the same degree. So for example we cry out the roads need fixing…how is that important to the person without a vehicle. To those who figure that we just need to move on, they need to understand that the way a race is looked at and treated today is based on history. Turning a blind eye won’t make it disappear.

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  63. Tony Waterman December 7, 2017 at 2:54 am

    @ Kareem Rayside!!!! It cost them $80.000 just to turn him to look East, instead of as he was looking down Broadstreet.So along with the “BorBall” that would be played, yeah!!! it could be Millions.

    @Ashlee Nicholle!!!! That seems to be the plan of our Educated Elite

    @nanci!!!! When in History was Lord Horatio Nelson a Slave Owner ??? i think that his Big Crime was being with the Status Quo, wanting to Retain Slavery.

    and!!! Who do you know of in Barbados,. that WORSHIPS Lord Nelson ????
    are we to assume that the only History we need is the GOOD History ??? and if that is True, why would the Jews Keep Maintaining, The Naxi Concentration and Extermination Camps in Germany, Poland and elsewhere in Europe ???? places like!!!
    Dachau, Oranienburg, Esterwegen,Geisellager,Arbeitslager,Aussenlager,Kriegsgefangenen-Mannschafts-Stammlager / Stalag, Mauthausen, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, Gross-Rosen, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Let me answer that for you. and the answer is !!!!! HISTORY,and it was NOT GOOD HISTORY, over 6 Million of them were slaughtered in these places between 1939 and 1945, and like they (The jews) always say “Never Again” that is how they teach their Younger generations what happened, they show them, by retaining their very HURTFUL Past.
    on the flip side we want to destroy our Bad part, so that wre have NOTHING to show our young People.

    That is why/How the Jews are so powerful, they have Retained their History from Egypt, Through the Desert, and back to Palestine.

    @ Heru Adetokunbo Baako!!!I demand to be treated with the same way we treat the Jews after their plight!

    You have a misconception of what happened to the Jews after WWII, they did NOT hang around in self Pity, they picked themselves up and just kept going, after swearing “NEVER AGAIN” we are our worst Enemy. we always try to do the wrong things, there is a BAJAN History to that Statue irregardless of what it stands for, why cant we like the Jews use that to our Advantage.
    They have Tours every Year to Auschwitz-Birkenau,Dachau etc, I wonder WHY ????

    @Eddy Murray!!! Hope he is Still President when the next War Starts, he can put his Embassy there, that does NOT make it the Capital, it is too Devided a City, He only opened a Can of Worms.

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  64. Othneal December 7, 2017 at 7:00 am

    @Tony Waterman, you have just won an award for pseudo-intellectualism. Your interpretation of historical facts is so warped and selective that it can only be described as propaganda.
    I am loathed to respond to comments such as yours, so against my better judgement I shall try to enlighten you on a few points.
    Are you familiar with the term “idolatry”? It’s a term applied to the practice of worshipping idols. Anyone who revers an idol worshipper. All who defends Nelson’s Idol are idol worshippers.
    The Jews are not a powerful racial group because the Nazis Concentration camps were transformed into musiums. Neither is that the reason for Germany’s post war industrial success.
    Firstly, the Jews were a successful entity long before they were scapegoated by the evil Nazis. Incidentally, there are no Nazis concentration camp musiums in Israel.
    Lastly, Germany’s post war industrial success is attributed to the massive industrial legacy of Hitler’s war mongering and enslavement of the Jews. Idols to Hitler are banned by legislation in Germany. The house he was raised in was recently demolished. To say that Hitler is part of Jewish history is an understatement. To say that Hitler is part of Germany’s history is equally an understatement. Now, where are the statues of Hitler’s in Germany and Israel. Are they History deniers?

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  65. Helicopter(8P) December 9, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    Lord Nelson was not a lavish man and had been just a loyal British Naval sailor. It’s as though the Brigadier of the Defence Force or the Commander of the Coast Guard being blamed for the sewer problem or the roadworks projects. Are you willing to distroy a civil servant due to the fact that Mr. Arthur might have sold the National Savings Bank to a foreign buisness ? I would think it as a hangup on behalf of persons wanting to participate in such behavior.

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