It’s slander

Stuart accuses ‘salacious’ CCJ of smearing Barbados

Prime Minister Freundel Stuart has slammed the Trinidad-based Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ), accusing it of “salaciously” slandering Barbados when it criticizes the island for delays in its criminal justice system, while other Caribbean territories with even lengthier delays escape such public rebuke.

Contributing to today’s debate in the House of Assembly on the Criminal Records (Rehabilitation of Offenders) (Amendment) Bill, 2017, during which several members spoke of delays in the justice system, Stuart’s remarks suggested annoyance at the CCJ for berating this island’s justice system, while other Caribbean islands that are under the jurisdiction of the British Privy Council get only “one sentence” reprimands.

“I do not myself get too overwhelmed by what the Caribbean Court of Justice says. We do not rejoice that there are delays in the system. There are delays and we have to deal with them.

“But I sometimes think that Barbados is being unnecessary slandered by some of the reports which I see,” Stuart said in reference to the number of times in recent years that the island’s final appellate court has scolded Barbados for judicial delays.

In addition to Barbados, Belize, Dominica and Guyana are the only Caribbean Community (CARICOM) countries which have the CCJ as their final court of appeal. The other countries still go to the Privy Council for final litigation of criminal cases, with the regional court acting as an arbiter in cases that involve interpretation of the Treaty of Charguaramas.

Stuart said this was why the CCJ could deliver such stinging criticisms of Barbados.

“All the others still go the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, and when you read decisions coming out of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council … evidence of horrible delays is uncovered in CARICOM countries that have not signed on to the CCJ,” Stuart said, adding that “the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council handles that issue of delays much less salaciously than seems to be the case when the issue is being handled here in the Caribbean”.

These issues, Stuart said, are dealt with by the Privy Council “in one sentence, two at most, without any administering of rebuke or any holding up of a particular country to ridicule.

“But a lot more salaciously issues are handled in this region,” he said in reference to CCJ rebukes.

The Prime Minister said that the issue of delays in the criminal justice system “is a serious problem for all countries and we have to confront the problem because we all know that justice delayed is justice denied”.

He added that Barbadians had a “vested interest” in a properly functioning judicial system, but added, “it is not going to function efficiently if whenever there is evidence that there is delay . . . a country is held up to ridicule and the impression is given that the system is not working”.

Stuart said the opinions he expressed today were not new because he had raised his concerns elsewhere, although he did not say where or when.   

Following the CCJ’s verdict in favour of Jamaican Shanique Myrie in 2013, the Prime Minister had complained that the automatic six-month stay for CARICOM nationals imposed by the court would open the floodgates for the unemployed and criminals.

However, he said at the time Barbadians ought to respect the ruling because Barbados was not “any banana, plantain or fig republic” but “a country governed by the rule of law”.

Today, he gave the assurance that Barbados would not rest on its laurels on the issue of the slow pace at which the wheels of justice turns here, “but I am just saying that it is a regional problem and it just happens that those countries that have signed on to the CCJ come under the CCJ spotlight.

“Those that have not signed on to the CCJ come under the spotlight of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council that deals with these issues fundamentally differently from how they are handled in the region.”

The Prime Minister said, “the impression should not be given in any quarter that we hear about delays, or we know about them, and we’re doing nothing about them”.

50 Responses to It’s slander

  1. Marva Lashley-Todd
    Marva Lashley-Todd December 5, 2017 at 11:31 pm

    Is it not true? How then can it be slander?

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  2. David Brathwaite December 6, 2017 at 12:38 am

    He is becoming like Trump; attacking the Court because it has the temerity to point out the weaknesses in our judicial system.

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  3. Buun December 6, 2017 at 12:45 am

    It is when you sold our national bank to T&T. They must be laughing at us.

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  4. Arthur Collymore
    Arthur Collymore December 6, 2017 at 1:12 am

    This man never ceases to amaze me. The judicial system in Barbados is presided over by two of the laziest men ever paid out of the public purse, CJ Gibson & AG Brathwaite. The former is rarely seen & heard of only when admitting new graduate lawyers to the bench. The CCJ criticisms & admonitions are just deserts for having the laziest PM, CJ & AG serving coincidentally at the same time. Had Myrie not made noise years after judgement was awarded she would not yet be paid. Only last night I spoke about Garcia languishing in prison long after his release date because we have a lazy ass PM that seem not to know how to get anythng done. It is so bad in this country that we have murder accuse on bail walking the streets of this country, one of whom was released at the behest of said AG. The CCJ is on point.

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    • Leroy December 6, 2017 at 1:36 am

      Correct in all you say but our PM thinks ccj is slandering us. What foilishness he speaks of

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      • MARIA Holder December 6, 2017 at 4:22 am

        You can find the CJ and any cocktail reception

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  5. Arlington Andrews Farley
    Arlington Andrews Farley December 6, 2017 at 1:38 am

    It,s not slander Mr.PM,it is a case of what it used to be and what it has become, now you have other pressing issues that need urgent attention so please get this country out of the s##t , the Tourist winter season starts on Dec.15 and taking a dip in the ocean by the Ministers is not enough to remedy the sh###y stench on the south coast.

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  6. Ali Baba
    Ali Baba December 6, 2017 at 2:20 am

    greasy jiggs winter is on us, please go in ur cocoon and hibernate like ya always do…U SEE WANNA HAVE BEEN LYING EVERY SECOND FOR TEN YEARS..SO WHEN U ALL HEAR THE TRUTH, IT SOUNDS FOREIGN TO WANNA EARS

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  7. John Everatt December 6, 2017 at 2:21 am

    Is this like saying “my lie was not as bad as his lie”? Has Trump been taking lessons from you?

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  8. CB December 6, 2017 at 3:04 am

    The system is not working Mr. PM. I don’t understand why those we select to public office are always dishonest in speech and dealings. I always learnt that the first step to change or progress is to acknowledge that there is a problem.

    If you continue to say that there is nothing wrong with the system that means that you are happy with people going to the courts for 3 years minimum and can’t get a hearing from a judge.

    This is an out of touch disconnected statement from the citizenry.

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  9. CB December 6, 2017 at 3:24 am

    It behooves me why you would want to make a comparision between two broken systems it is like saying because one car crash result in one fatality and another crash two that one is better than the next. No Mr PM there are ALL FATALITIES. SMDH.GET THE DAMN SYSTEM FIX.

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  10. Lilian Lloyd
    Lilian Lloyd December 6, 2017 at 4:12 am

    THAT IS SLANDER!!!!!

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  11. MARIA Holder December 6, 2017 at 4:27 am

    PM you are really too old for this kind of finger pointing. Your generation was raised to take responsibility – man up. You have failed miserably. Accept that and work your way from there – you still have a couple months. Rome was not built in a day but Barbadians are fickle – do your thing.

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  12. Amarilis Lily
    Amarilis Lily December 6, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Criticism is like a person standing in front a mirror the mirror points out that there is a problem but it cant solve the problem the individual instead of burrying their head in the sand goes and look for solutions to solve the problem so when they approach the mirror again it is to solve a new problem which will be pointed out by the mirror .

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  13. Danny Clarke
    Danny Clarke December 6, 2017 at 5:28 am

    The facts are there for all to see yet when its spoken about then these useless ones run out talking about slander and lies and look to blame everyone else . The reason Gibson was brought hollering all loud was to work towards clearing the backlog of cases . Was has he done ? Absolutely nothing . Just like you he is a waste of taxpayers money

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  14. Shanika Roberts Odle
    Shanika Roberts Odle December 6, 2017 at 5:32 am

    I got some slander for you…..Worst Prime Minister EVER

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    • Ali Baba
      Ali Baba December 6, 2017 at 8:31 am

      AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD

      Reply
  15. Santini More
    Santini More December 6, 2017 at 5:41 am

    Lets just keep celebrating our failure PM, it is the only thing your useless administration has ever been consistent at. Gold medals of honour should immediately be presented to the AG and the Minister of sewage!

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    • Chris Alleyne
      Chris Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 6:29 am

      He is good at that. Isn’t he? ‘We’re not as bad as ……..’. Just fill in the blank as you wish.

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  16. Alex Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 5:56 am

    “Open the floodgates for the unemployed and criminals”. “Barbados is not any banana, plantain or fig republic but a Country governed by the rule of LAW”.
    Then why is LORD EVIL still walking the streets free as a Bird???????.

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  17. Tony Webster December 6, 2017 at 6:14 am

    Oh dear. Sir, Bim gets the heaviest punch…simply because we ” punch above our weught”…and therefore are seen as a bench (sorry) mark of swift justice. Cannot a scholar like you grasp this?

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  18. Alex Alleyne December 6, 2017 at 6:17 am

    This only go to show how mess-up we are as a people. The “PRIVY COUNCIL” want to cut us free but many refuse to leave , still holding on to that apron string in Jolly Ole England.

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    • hcalndre December 6, 2017 at 6:40 am

      Alex Alleyne; so that they can give their friends that handle, “Sir.”

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  19. Tony Webster December 6, 2017 at 6:20 am

    @Arthur Collymore: thank you Sir…for nailing the nitty-gritty facts, and hides..to the wall! I for one fail to find even the remotest justification for amending our constitution…for THIS?

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  20. Robin Catwell
    Robin Catwell December 6, 2017 at 6:49 am

    Go powder ya nose!

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  21. Javier Maynard
    Javier Maynard December 6, 2017 at 6:51 am

    They are delays in both. Give this guy a break he’s in a tight spot.

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  22. Angus Benn
    Angus Benn December 6, 2017 at 6:51 am

    Barbados should not joined in the first place.

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    • Susan Renee
      Susan Renee December 6, 2017 at 7:47 am

      Y may i ask?

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    • Angus Benn
      Angus Benn December 6, 2017 at 7:49 am

      You might not like my reason.

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    • J. Payne December 6, 2017 at 8:17 am

      If Barbados was as impartial and fair as everyone would want to believe there would be no need for a CCJ to double check the work of the Supreme Court of Barbados. The Supreme Court of Barbados should be the last court, and CCJ should really only be tasked with issues of dispute(s) between two or more CARICOM nations. To say you need a CCJ to fact-check the Barbados Supreme Court is to admit Barbados judges cannot be expected to be fair to all parties concerned.

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      • Leroy December 6, 2017 at 10:55 am

        Not necessarily so,,CCJ is final appellate court and is a vision to bring all the islands under one umbrella. So justice in bds can look similar to justice in Trinidad ect, also there is lots of inter-regional business and movement of $ and people so there is good reason for the court outside what you stated, however, the ccj has shown up our courts system for what it is, broken beyond repair with current admin at the helm.

        2 simple things that can be done in short time that can drastically reduce wait time for judgments in bds

        1. Remove preliminary inquiries(self explanatory)

        2. Enforce some specialization/portfolios i.e have a judge focus directly on business/corporate cases for a 2-3 year period instead of him/her rendering judgments from business cases then having to switch and render domestic judgments ect in one sitting.

        3. Time limits on presentation of state evidence from the police to dpp and from dpp to courthouse ect.

        What have the PM, Chief Justice, DPP and Att Gen been doing for the last 10 years?

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  23. Bajan boy December 6, 2017 at 6:57 am

    Stuart should be ashamed. He is even guilty of delaying former clients by 8, 10,or even more years. Disrespectful,uncaring belligerent SOB..

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  24. Rawle Spooner
    Rawle Spooner December 6, 2017 at 7:17 am

    PM you are a lawyer so please explain how can it be slander if it’s damm true,the Barbados justice system slow like a snail so instead of talking crap fix it then you can talk tough.

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  25. harry turnover December 6, 2017 at 7:26 am

    Stuart,the CCJ was oppose to Barbados FROM THE MYRIE case. Why ya din open ya mout den ?

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  26. Earl Crichlow
    Earl Crichlow December 6, 2017 at 8:05 am

    Everyone is seeing our woes accept dis clown…he’s definitely in denial or bipolar…or both..

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  27. Andrew E Pilgrim
    Andrew E Pilgrim December 6, 2017 at 8:07 am

    I love the use of the word ‘salaciously’ before slander. It hit the nail on the head.
    Sir, the fact is that the other Caribbean countries thinks that Barbados is unbearably proud. This is repeated almost on an hourly basis at UWI Cave Hill into the face of our Barbadian especially by the visiting professors. With that attitude and enshrine endoctination, do you really expect us to get a fair break anywhere in the Caribbean!!!???
    But let’s remain proud and always gain the blessing of God by reaching out and always helping those in need.
    But let’s also use criticism to clean up our short comings. Let the others waddle in their filth.

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    • Cheryl Cumberbatch
      Cheryl Cumberbatch December 6, 2017 at 8:20 am

      Pride goes before a fall and a haughty spirit before destruction. We need to take pride in the positives that we do not have a proud attitude. There is a significant difference.

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    • Ali Baba
      Ali Baba December 6, 2017 at 8:28 am

      Cheryl Cumberbatch SO TRUE

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    • Andrew E Pilgrim
      Andrew E Pilgrim December 6, 2017 at 10:24 am

      You can never see an attitude. In actual fact what you see is your own perceptions measured by your very own yard stick. Many times when we judge people’s attitude they don’t even know we exist. They just there doing their own thing.

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  28. Deangelo Dixie Mayers
    Deangelo Dixie Mayers December 6, 2017 at 8:13 am

    Stupessssssssszzzzz

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  29. Ali Baba
    Ali Baba December 6, 2017 at 8:35 am

    WHEN THE HONORABLE ERROL BARROW DIED, AH IDIOT TOOK OVER, WHEN THOMPSON DIED, AH BIGGER ALPINE IDIOT TOOK OVER WITH 15 MOUNTAIN GOATS…..SEEMS LIKE AH CURSE HAVE AH GRIP ON DEM

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  30. John A. Moore December 6, 2017 at 9:46 am

    PM, the CCJ is not the Privy Council. It lives among us and can see the problems more clearly.

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  31. Winnie Meade
    Winnie Meade December 6, 2017 at 9:56 am

    Look them people know what us going on in every country too much money is in bim look people spending money buy this on that

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  32. James Austin Bynoe
    James Austin Bynoe December 6, 2017 at 10:06 am

    Moody’s downgrades rejected, S&P downgrades rejected – two orgs we pay to rate us …. now CCJ judgement rejected ….

    what planet are you living on?

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    • Crystalene Alexander
      Crystalene Alexander December 6, 2017 at 11:13 am

      Everybody telling lies on Barbados….watch when they get vote out and these same reviews ever come again automatically they become the truth then.

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  33. Greengiant December 6, 2017 at 10:15 am

    The CCJ will address the judicial issues with Barbados that relates to Barbados. The issues for other territories under its jurisdiction will be discussed with those islands individually.

    You as an officer of the court would know this, to share issues relating to one island with another would be nothing but judicial gossip. You as PM and the others before you need to focus on addressing the issues facing us, and stop comparing us with other countries. Among individuals, businesses, and indeed countries there will be leaders and followers. We can either lead or follow positively. To compare, rather than to admit and address issues is nothing but negativity.

    Changing to the BLP will only give us more of that, they too will be comparing with the management of the DLP, and blaming the DLP for the issues facing them. It’s time we move away from this style of governmental politics.

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  34. Jerry O
    Jerry O'neale December 6, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Your in denial PM,can’t wait to see you go

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  35. John Downes
    John Downes December 6, 2017 at 10:36 am

    JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED!!

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  36. archy perch December 6, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    America has a President who is as fake as a three dollar bill. Barbados has a person who is a fake lawyer. Who would believe that. SMH

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  37. Jus me December 6, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    Who???
    Shouts louder than a Robbed Thief!!

    Ha ha ha

    Beaten with your own shoe”

    No mind, you be off someplace soon, like Samoa, First Class.of course, with “per diem ” expenses ,of course, to discuss matters.
    ALL FIRST CLASS.
    OF COURSE!!!

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