Bajans condemn defacing of Nelson statue

Hours after it was discovered that the controversial statue of British hero Horatio Nelson had been defaced, efforts were under way to clean off the paint that had been splashed over it.

However, while workers from commercial cleaning company Pammard Services were today trying to wash off the evidence, nothing could erase the deep feelings that Barbadians have about the placement of the 204-year-old statue which stands imposingly at Heroes Square.

City commuters were surprised this morning to discover that the statue, which was erected in 1813, was covered in yellow and blue spray paint and other graffiti.

Whoever defaced it also left a sign at the base of the statue stating: “Lord Nelson will Fall. This racist white supremacist who would rather die than see black persons free, stands proudly in our nation’s capital. Nelson must go! Fear not Barbadians have spoken, politicians have failed us.”

Independent senator John Watson pounced on this message during debate on the Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2017 in the Upper House, describing it as a sign of hatred for Nelson, who led forces that defended British interests in the Caribbean during slavery.

“It was despicable. We should never condone those sorts of things in Barbados,” Watson said.

The symbolic use of yellow and blue paint on the eve of Barbados’ 51st anniversary of independence did not go unnoticed by Watson, a strong advocate for black enfranchisement.

Describing the act as “extremely shocking”, he said “it was not done in any respect for Barbados in blue and gold.

“It was done as mischievousness against Lord Nelson . . . . I wanted to go to the person or persons who did that and to let them know that the use of that gold paint and blue paint does not represent the behaviour of Barbadians.”

“I do not hide my feelings or my wish to see a better deal for black people in Barbados. But my belief in black enfranchisement and the upliftment of black people has absolutely nothing to do with the hate of anybody, with prejudice, with the dislike of any other race,” Watson stressed.

A number of people with whom Barbados TODAY spoke felt defacing the statue was ill advised at best, even if they did not like the fact that it continued to occupy space in an area named in honour of Barbadian heroes, none of whom enjoys a similar privilege.

Pammard Services employee Jerard Augustine, who was among those cleaning the Nelson figure, condemned the act of vandalism, while insisting that Nelson is part of Barbados’ past.

“Defacing Nelson doesn’t mean anything. He is part of our history. Our ancestors sell us to them, so it’s like we are forgetting who we are, and this is not the time for that. For them to deface him because he bought slaves is crazy. He is part of Barbados, and if not for the ancestors we wouldn’t be here. So let us respect Nelson for who he was,” Augustine told Barbados TODAY, while adding that Government should consider erecting statues of the country’s heroes to “show Barbadians that this is history”.

It also did not escape him that the defacement took place on the eve of independence, and he felt “the person [was] trying to speak out”.

A similar observation was made by a woman who requested anonymity, but who told Barbados TODAY while she did not endorse defacing the statue, both the note left by whoever was responsible and the timing were spot on.

“I am not a fan of defacing, it is against the law to vandalize. But the sign that was there I am in full agreement with it.

“I think the person timed it perfectly. Fifty-one years we are a nation and certain things of the past we need to let go. If he [Nelson statue] is representing what happened before the 51 years we can take him down.”

Philip Clarke also said it was wrong to deface the statue, but said it should have been taken down a long time ago, while Wendell C Smith could not be bothered, although he too, disagreed with the defacement.   

“I know Professor Beckles is saying it should go and I guess he is speaking from a historic point of view, but as far as I am concerned to me it is neither here nor there,” Clarke said in reference to a two-part commentary by vice chancellor of the University of the West Indies Sir Hilary Beckles calling for the statue to be taken down.

“There is a certain way to deal with things. You have the pen and you have your voice but defacing, no. There is a more civil way to deal with these things,” Clarke stressed.

In his article, Sir Hilary said the continued presence of the statue constituted “the subjugation of democratic parliamentary power to descendant white elites” and was “a persistent violent imposition upon the mind of every right-thinking democratic citizen”.

He also criticized academics such as Sir Henry Fraser and Dr Karl Watson, whom he said have confronted the society “under the guise of cultural artifact” but have refused to state if they would wish to live in a state with a monument of a Nazi warlord had they been Jewish.

He also took aim at both major political parties for failing to remove the statue during their tenures in office.

“The assumption is growing, I have been informed, that the Government might rather citizens, in an act of moral civil disobedience, to take matters in their own hands, and remove the offending obstacle to democracy. This has been the case in the United States and South Africa,” Sir Hilary wrote.

114 Responses to Bajans condemn defacing of Nelson statue

  1. Eddy Murray
    Eddy Murray November 29, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    That person painted the wrong statue..

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  2. Jennifer November 29, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    “Our ancestors sell us to them” – lie.

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  3. Lennox Hewitt
    Lennox Hewitt November 29, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    But u speaking for me now? I dont k if he get paint or not i does pass by he but i dont look at nelson

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  4. Gregg Moseley Clarke
    Gregg Moseley Clarke November 29, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    Take it down. …

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  5. Nicole Clarke
    Nicole Clarke November 29, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    Issa lie!!! Most bajans agree that nelson could go in the wharf tho!

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  6. JG Dillinger
    JG Dillinger November 29, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    Wanna should pelt the bible in the wharf too cuz that is what the white man use to enslave and make wanna feel inferior too

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    • Jennifer November 29, 2017 at 11:30 pm

      @JG Dilliger – No, the white man actually used Christianity to deceive this people with that fork tongue – there is a difference.

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      • Jennifer November 29, 2017 at 11:40 pm

        The white man will take the slaves and put them on benches in the barns and teach them himself what he wanted from the book. Then he set up his churches churches evolving chiefly from the Romans in Jerusalem at the time the expanded to Antioch – Rome, Thessaloniki – greek, etc

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    • John Whittaker
      John Whittaker November 30, 2017 at 7:29 am

      Realtalk!

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    • Kaiser Sose
      Kaiser Sose November 30, 2017 at 7:56 am

      I pelt mine long long ago im Buddhist.

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      • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 8:24 am

        Sorry u did that buddy. The bible is the history of black people. From the beginning to the end.

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  7. Jennifer November 29, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    Get the Royal police force to watch he.

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  8. Antonio Cozier
    Antonio Cozier November 29, 2017 at 11:20 pm

    I’m not one of them who condemns it

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  9. Rudy Griffith
    Rudy Griffith November 29, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    Horatio want lickin down but he will stay because you Bajan Slaves love and worship the white Slave Master!

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  10. JG Dillinger
    JG Dillinger November 29, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    And if Hillary Beckles feel so strongly about nelson ….he should denounce his Sir ….after all Sir would of been the massa’s title…

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    • Maaz A Love
      Maaz A Love November 30, 2017 at 1:02 am

      SIR …(SLAVE I REMAIN).

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    • Maaz A Love
      Maaz A Love November 30, 2017 at 7:07 am
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    • Gee Zette
      Gee Zette November 30, 2017 at 8:53 am

      But they are white men in high position with the title sir so may that claim is reaching.

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    • Sandra Lovell Taitt-Eaddy
      Sandra Lovell Taitt-Eaddy November 30, 2017 at 11:14 am

      Me thinks Sir. Hillary gave himself a more well-rounded education than most had in our British style schools. He gets the impact of colonial symbols like the man with the rifle standing at the top of your financial district. These symbols can be like silent killers, stalking your mind and motivation.

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  11. JT November 29, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    Set up cameras and catch the next vandal!

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  12. Anfaani Henry
    Anfaani Henry November 30, 2017 at 12:46 am

    Push it down

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  13. Seanstar Bradshaw
    Seanstar Bradshaw November 30, 2017 at 1:03 am

    I don’t get why ppl find him so offensive…he is part of our history and played his part ! What y’all want the government to say they HV to find another 2 million to take down a part of our history?? What about jobs and social and health care?? And the derogatory statements this government has made about bajans and handouts after so many lay offs….y is it a statue gets this much attention instead of much more important issues…??

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    • Noelle Slinky
      Noelle Slinky November 30, 2017 at 3:51 am

      Removing the statue doesn’t change history. I honestly don’t get the fixation with removing it, not to mention the cost. If it stays people complain, if it’s removed, people will complain about the cost, and I’m sure there will be complaints about whatever replaces it.

      I’m tired already.

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      • Tee White November 30, 2017 at 8:11 am

        Why do people keep bringing up this non-argument about changing history? Nobobody can change history. It’s done and gone. The issue is why do people put up statues? The put them up to celebrate individuals whose actions they respect and support. Why did the white planters put up a statue of Nelson and not one of Bussa. Because they supported Nelson’s racist defence of black enslavement and opposed Bussa’s efforts to gain us our freedom. So for a country, with 95% of its population descended from african slaves to have a statue of this racist in our capital is a statement about what we celebrate and respect from history. It is a statement that we celebrate the racist crimes committed against our foreparents in the same way that the white slavemasters did when they erected the statue. Come on Bajans, get a grip. This is 2017 and we need to show some self love and self respect. The main thing is to agree to take it down and then make that exercise as cheap as possible. Stop making excuses for slave mentality.

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        • Laura November 30, 2017 at 7:25 pm

          Tee White
          Well said, it should be remove and place in the grave yard.

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    • Gillian Skeete
      Gillian Skeete November 30, 2017 at 7:48 am

      Noelle Slinky he is no hero so should have been put elsewhere in the first place. Put him somewhere else and like you said get on with the attempts to save our nation from further economic damage. Silly season and distractions

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    • Ricardo Waldron
      Ricardo Waldron November 30, 2017 at 8:43 am

      Who history? Black ppl are not bajans.

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    • Juanita Blanco
      Juanita Blanco November 30, 2017 at 9:47 am

      Nobody wants to change history. What many want, is for the hero worship of persons who facilitated and/or actively engaged in the decimation of a people, to end! Statues serve the purpose of memoralizing persons you hold in high esteem. Why if he was such an awful person, do we need to have his statue in our faces day to day? Stop minimizing!

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  14. steve w November 30, 2017 at 1:45 am

    People worrying about Nelson… I worrying about my supermarket bill

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  15. Darren Garrett
    Darren Garrett November 30, 2017 at 2:00 am

    A misguided set of Bajans condemn it

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  16. Epaphras D. Williams
    Epaphras D. Williams November 30, 2017 at 2:09 am

    Nelson is the figurehead in the city. Taking him down doesn’t change the fact that we who honour Afro descent don’t generally love Africans and we certainly ain’t our local brothers’ keeper. The white man and the asian basically exploited a people who did not prize unity and brotherhood. It is still happening today. We are not any different from our ancestors who promulgated and profited from slavery..

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    • Wendy Reece
      Wendy Reece November 30, 2017 at 2:26 am

      Back in the 70s and 80s here in London we had the Rasta men and women saying “ yeah we are all going back home to the mother country Africa” listen love, some of them are dead some are still alive here and are now old and grey, they went nowhere because their lives are better here than over there. All some people do is to pay lip service to many things and do nothing. Defacing or pulling down the statue will not change anything, if you all take it down I suggest you have a vote on who is to replace Nelson. May I also suggest a bajan who has done something good that benefitted the country and its people.

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    • Epaphras D. Williams
      Epaphras D. Williams November 30, 2017 at 2:28 am

      Wendy Reece I applaud you.

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    • David Aswad Alleyne
      David Aswad Alleyne November 30, 2017 at 5:29 am

      Stupid Wendy!

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    • Kaiser Sose
      Kaiser Sose November 30, 2017 at 7:53 am

      Epaphras D. Williams: Dude shut the efff up , Arabs sir were the ones who profited sycophant, they conquered converted and employed others to do their bidding under the threat of the sword.
      Many of our ancestors died and killed themselves rather than serve them or be put in bondage many african kings and queens carried on the struggle to keep us free the Last being Emperor Haile Salasie .
      Its seditious ethnic vermin like you that always has to kiss the Ma55a rass..
      White people fight each sir all ethnic clans have infighting going on we are no differt so stop trying to make it seem as though disunity is only Germaine to us black folk.And allnyou bigging up this fake as phony should ne ashamed to callnylur selves black. The problem with black folk is the get alongs like you all.

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    • Epaphras D. Williams
      Epaphras D. Williams November 30, 2017 at 7:59 am

      You altered your body chemistry but you changed nothing. Kaiser Sose you are hopeless.

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    • Epaphras D. Williams
      Epaphras D. Williams November 30, 2017 at 8:20 am

      Kaiser, you need some warm milk and a play pen. You are too young and immature for this platform. Stop throwing temper tantrums before you rupture an artery.

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    • Kaiser Sose
      Kaiser Sose November 30, 2017 at 9:46 am

      Wendy Reese the insinuation that black folk willingly sold each other into bongndage is ludacris at its core maam.
      The Arabs cinquered and had a slave network set up. Those conquered converts to Islam ran the slave forts, not the free black folk who faught them so when troglodytes like Mr williams strat spilling fecal matter from his oral orifice (boxie) it burns my glutes.Point is we as Bajans suffered tremendously under the colonials.Nelson hung our doremothers and fathers down town and it is hallowed ground that shkuld not be desecrated with a statue of his murderous,racist slave owning Wazzock. And any one who advocates for its continued presences fecal matter on the sacrafise of the murdered black folk who built Barbados.
      Thats why im angry ma’am for them not me .
      So when sycophants like Mr williams do their bidding i go while hog at the seditious nature of them their acolytes. im not a fan of Errol Barrow but replace it with his statue and thats blasphemy on my part being. BLP supporter but i can stomach a blackman who fought for independence not a genocidal serf Nelson. Thats why i am mad maam.

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  17. Richard Arjoon
    Richard Arjoon November 30, 2017 at 2:17 am

    Nelson hung locals from them trees downtown.

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  18. Adrian Reid
    Adrian Reid November 30, 2017 at 2:34 am

    Nelson want pushing in the wharf….

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  19. Tamesha Padmore
    Tamesha Padmore November 30, 2017 at 3:37 am

    I think we have more pressing matters to deal with than this nonsense

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  20. Erskine Hoyte
    Erskine Hoyte November 30, 2017 at 3:56 am

    Independent senator John Watson you are the classic COON. Look up the meaning in context.

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  21. Saga Boy November 30, 2017 at 4:26 am

    There is a way to do things. Law and order is the first sign of any civilized society. White people enslaved us as well and now have an unfair advantage on us. But should we pelt them in the wharf as well? Of course not. Let us work together to reduce and reverse that advantage. Some of you who talk about removing Nelson need to first work on changing your mental attitudes. Some of you laugh and make degrading comments about broad noses and black skin. Some of you wear donkey hair and are ashamed of your natural hair. Some of you prefer to do business with and continue to support minority businesses. Some of you continue to blame others for your current state of affairs instead of getting up off your backsides and making it happen. We cannot and should not encourage any criminal acts.

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  22. Judy Mahon Vickers
    Judy Mahon Vickers November 30, 2017 at 5:09 am

    Marilyn C Fields, which Bajans would that be? Please enlighten

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  23. Mr. T November 30, 2017 at 5:22 am

    Nelson gets more visits than the mandela park, and think about all the money wasted on that…

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  24. Christopher Robinson
    Christopher Robinson November 30, 2017 at 5:32 am

    Senator John A Watson should have roundly condemned Beckles for actively encouraging this act in his speech….deal with ALL the factors of this vandal’s act, its impossible to have a remedial effect by singling out some. 5/10 for Senate contribution.

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  25. hcalndre November 30, 2017 at 5:57 am

    The barbadian is a very different thinking black man from the rest after 400 years plus, its in the bajan DNA to remain docile and Tom Clarke wrote his book entitled “Growing up Stupid under the Union Jack.” Given those handles to their names and feel like part of the Royalty so Nelson is there to stay and Barbados will always hold on to the traditions of theirs masters. Check the dress code of the Court judges and the Parliament that Barrow boast to Pres. Reagan that its older than what America has, and all barbados has left is pride.

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  26. Alex Alleyne November 30, 2017 at 6:05 am

    MANY of us in the streets would love to see NELSON gone , thrown in the Wharf , or put in the museum or even get bury in a cane field. But the POLITICIANS (powers that be) will never do such because they think of the “REPERCUSSIONS” that will come from Massa England.

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 6:32 am

      yep. not only that, it will be also about receiving their accolades – can’t part with those etc. This people have to be the most ignorant, on the planet . Them in the deep well and loving it being there. This is why absolutely no other race takes them seriously and uses them repeatedly.

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  27. Marilyn C Fields
    Marilyn C Fields November 30, 2017 at 6:08 am

    Judy Mahon Vickers …ALL THOSE APPOSE to who wish it taken down..is that enlightenment enough for your smartass 🙂

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  28. archy perch November 30, 2017 at 6:22 am

    I am amazed that many of you who wallow and worship your black skin and Africa are some of the same people who get and talk about the Prime Minister’s face and nose and all sorts of things to demonize him. You are all a bunch of self hating hypocrites. Furthermore dressed in all their blackness and supporting the crooked Barbados Labour Party is shamefull. That party has always been and still is the slave masters preference and that is why you see the withdrawal of financing whenever a DLP administration is in office. Persons need to do their research thoroughly and see they things the DLP did and continues to do for the masses, most of whom are black and low income.

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    • Tee White November 30, 2017 at 9:59 am

      @archy perch Thank you for bringing this up. I was going to mention it yesterday. However, I don’t think you can say that it is people who “worship their black skin and Africa” who make those kinds of comments. I am certainly in the first group but would never make such comments. But as Bajans, we need to have a diffcult conversation about how the English experiment of enslaving us on this island has left us with deep psychological scars of self hatred and love of white supremacy. We need to address this and getting rid of Nelson’s statue is part of that process.

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  29. jrsmith November 30, 2017 at 6:25 am

    Bajans love been distracted from issues they dont want to face up to , as like the out of order politicians , the destruction of our economy , what kind of government we would end up with come the new elections ……….Nothing changes you get what you pay for …… Getting rid of Nelson isn’t going to make any difference to anything in Barbados , massa still going to be in control ……

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 6:42 am

      Ok then, but this is all they can do. Out here they don’t want nothing changed either, this people love things so. The minority owing and controlling the majority of Barbados. When you come you will see the true side of this people. Good luck.

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  30. Marilyn C Fields
    Marilyn C Fields November 30, 2017 at 6:32 am

    Judy Mahon Vickers …..ALL THOSE APPOSE …to who want it taken down..is that enlightenment enough for your smartass 🙂

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  31. Alex Alleyne November 30, 2017 at 6:41 am

    If he is that “historic” figure, then move him somewhere so that the people would have to pay a fee to see him. At least the Country will collect a few “coffers” off his head.

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 6:47 am

      OK.
      I went to the Barbados museum recently and wanted to see some yokes of iron and they did not even have any. And this is suppose to be a historical place – .

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  32. seagul November 30, 2017 at 6:42 am

    Gangster rhymes have been spun before.
    But let me tell you what I really adore.
    It’s the very truth that matters more.
    The power structure of this parasitic world has shifted several times. -From Rome- to Germany to the Calaphate to the byzantine empire—new-Rome-eastern-roman empire—to the Turks—to the napoleanic age-afterwards the British empire and now the American empire….Do you all think they care about us ?
    Burning Spear…..do you remember the times of slavery ? I repeat….

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  33. Rawle Spooner
    Rawle Spooner November 30, 2017 at 6:42 am

    Let’s be frigging real Barbados supposed to be independent but that’s only in name to make folks feel good.All these statues are b/s along with names like Royal/Sir and Dane just to name a few and continuing to follow monarchy if island so independent then be damm independent period.

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  34. Sophia Foster
    Sophia Foster November 30, 2017 at 7:06 am

    He should put him in his garden that case he see him alll time

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  35. Alex Alleyne November 30, 2017 at 7:06 am

    @Jennifer, I also pay a visit to the MUSEUM to see the “unit that WIRL make/press vinyl records” and could not see it. Was told “it was not on display”…..No other explanation given.

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  36. Sue Donym November 30, 2017 at 7:10 am

    Massa day ent done – yuh lie!

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 7:17 am

      don’t know why you would say that, there is no shackles or lashes. You are free to go to church, u get a decent education to help you into work, u get to celebrate the holidays, work and go home. Why would you say such a thing. Naughty Sue.

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      • Sue Donym November 30, 2017 at 7:30 am

        Yes, Jennifer! Massa’s mouthpiece says we are filled with hate – for a man long dead, but has no words about the exploits of a man who was honoured for war and advancing the cause of colonisation.

        Should we remind him that that agenda was all about displacing, dispossessing and degrading millions of people? Should we cloud his rose coloured glasses with tales of slaughter of native peoples who would not ‘cooperate’ with invaders who wished to take their minerals or just divide up the lands among the friends of the monarchy?

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        • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 7:47 am

          U know Sue, Malcolm said we got TWO (only) types of negros – the house and the field negro. The house lot keeps the field lot in check with their added foot in neck mentality. That is your house lot talking, including Hillary. And that house negro is the most dangerous negro money can buy. May our god help and deliver us soon.

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          • Sue Donym November 30, 2017 at 8:25 am

            Yes, the kind of negroes who could be relied upon to wet nurse their infants and cook their food, but never good enough to sit at the same tables. Two hundred years later good Christians are being told to respect their graven images. Nice job!

  37. Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 7:28 am

    Happy independence guys. Today I will be basking at the beach eating conkies and drinking some fresh home made sorrel. cheers.

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    • Sue Donym November 30, 2017 at 8:47 am

      Thanks, Jennifer. Hope you enjoy your day!

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  38. Alex Alleyne November 30, 2017 at 7:31 am

    @Seagul, everybody love BOB, but BURNING SPEAR (Winston Rodney) is the best in the business.
    Own about every record he made.

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  39. WT November 30, 2017 at 7:34 am

    Remove Nelson’s Statue……..then what?

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  40. John Whittaker
    John Whittaker November 30, 2017 at 7:35 am

    Dat needs taking down, this is why I don’t celebrate Independence bim is still under control from the slave masters

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  41. Carlisle Norville November 30, 2017 at 7:41 am

    Jennifer how are you, naughty sue in naughty what she say is true, we go to church to worship a white Jesus & de bible makes it clear in Revelation that he is a man of colour ,we go to school to learn the white mans story ,& nothing about our history, so sue is TRUE , & its time that we wake up to the reality that we need a different educational system, cause we are being taught all the white man lies ( dont bagans women of colour LOVE de white man badddd( the sesret to change for blacks is in learning trade & comerse learning to stop buying from rich white, & open our own buisnesses & buy from each other ( we have to learn to save money) we really need to love who we are ,& realize that blacks are god’s on the earth, that have been striped psycologically of the true concept of who we are, black men have to learn to LOVE & Cheerish black & brown women, after all without women there would be NO life on Earth( to all women of colour, who read this article, this is one brorther who knows, that you are Queens Not slaves or hoars.LOVE you ALL women of colour.!

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 7:58 am

      Thanks Carlisle and well stated – Sue knows my sarcasm. She is a true daughter of the soil.
      In order for any of what you say to be done it will mean UNITY to dismantle all of the colonial systems, and that ain’t happening. Remember the house lot, and we got a lot of subsidiaries/off shoots at work.

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  42. Richard Johnston November 30, 2017 at 7:59 am

    1. There are bound to be witnesses to this crime in arguably the most public location in Barbados. They should come forward.
    2. Why is there no video camera trained on the most outstanding symbol of the British Empire that is bound to provoke controversy?

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  43. Tee White November 30, 2017 at 8:00 am

    The headline should read “Uncle Tom condemns defacing of Nelson statue”. In fact it’s the statue of this white racist which is defacing our capital city and country.

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  44. HardBall November 30, 2017 at 8:04 am

    Who is this dude “Pammard Services employee Jerard Augustine”?
    With this statement, I am sure he did not go to school in Barbados, or the Caribbean.

    “Defacing Nelson doesn’t mean anything. He is part of our history. Our ancestors sell us to them, so it’s like we are forgetting who we are, and this is not the time for that. For them to deface him because he bought slaves is crazy. He is part of Barbados, and if not for the ancestors we wouldn’t be here. So let us respect Nelson for who he was,” Augustine told Barbados TODAY, while adding that Government should consider erecting statues of the country’s heroes to “show Barbadians that this is history”.

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  45. Jonah Banks November 30, 2017 at 8:18 am

    Let’s celebrate slavery as well!

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  46. C.o.l Bascom
    C.o.l Bascom November 30, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Which bajans?

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  47. Samanatha walker November 30, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Nelson needs to go, and one person talking cant talk for the masses. They dont even listen to the masses…. Its funny Barbadian history is part of UK history….Do THEY have BUSSA in the middle of London Town? NO…. Nelson is an eyesore, does he really need to be in the middle of Town – where the masses are not his race. Keep the subliminal messages here in Barbados where you want the masses to stay ignorant…..

    And please Barbados IS NOT independent – stop trying to fool people in this day and age ! Ridiculous !! I wont be celebrating a day that doesnt mean what it says, just like the rulers or tricksters!!

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  48. Anthony Prescott November 30, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Nelson needs to go, and one person talking cant talk for the masses. They dont even listen to the masses…. Its funny Barbadian history is part of UK history….Do THEY have BUSSA in the middle of London Town? NO…. Nelson is an eyesore, does he really need to be in the middle of Town – where the masses are not his race. Keep the subliminal messages here in Barbados where you want the masses to stay ignorant…..

    And please Barbados IS NOT independent – stop trying to fool people in this day and age ! Ridiculous !! I wont be celebrating a day that doesnt mean what it says, just like the rulers or tricksters!!

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 8:59 am

      Anthony I agree with you, however, the reason why all of this mentality and sublime messages keeps going is because this people is ignorant of their history, the priest and the historians should have done a diligent search for our fore fathers and our identity, long time ago. Then we as a people do not talk with our children either, thinking we are being nicey, nicey and maintaining the status quo and doing them a favor by not bringing up the past. Mind you I am sure the other races are teaching their children, how to keep on top of the game. This is how the new generation continue to fall into the same sunken place as their fore-parents. Not to mention it is the same reason why our young are even regressing into these violet behaviors and becoming our oppressors. This whole thing has now become a spiders web.

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      • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 9:03 am

        Actually we as a people do not even think we are in a sunken place once we can trend and shop in Miami etc and go on ship cruises and the like.

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  49. Anthony Prescott November 30, 2017 at 8:35 am

    I agree Jonah Banks – lets celebrate slavery cos we live with subliminal messages everyday….Blacks running behind whites to serve them first – they dont even have to wait in line…. 200 plus years later, our people still feel that whites are better than them, why cos we dont discuss real issues and since emancipation little has changed in Bim !!

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  50. Alan Winter November 30, 2017 at 8:38 am

    You really got to question those leading….. Whose side are you on, rarely can you see those holding leading positions talking in defence of their own colour…… something truely wrong with the mindset….how can you want to keep your people in bondage, those people need to check themselves….. we were enslaved, we werent born to be slaves !! We were free…. I think we need to remember that !

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  51. Jantje Scott Caesar
    Jantje Scott Caesar November 30, 2017 at 8:40 am

    The person want locking up fah truth, them ain’t finish the job, they should get a crane and push it in the wharf.

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  52. Anthony Prescott November 30, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Can you paint a Zebra crossing so we can get safely to BUSSA to show our respects to our HERO !!

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  53. Sue Donym November 30, 2017 at 8:43 am

    And to those who insist that removing Nelson is an attempt to rewrite history, and those who say there are more important things affecting us.
    Thinking people know that historical facts can’t be changed – not that we haven’t witnessed efforts to tweak some things – but where’s the problem in putting things in true context?

    History has in fact taught us to multitask: we could say “Yes, massa” while being whipped.

    So, we can agitate for Nelson’s removal and still focus on the other things that need to be corrected.
    And if this is what it takes to get the otherwise silent to recognise that we have important matters to be decided – well, something good came of it.

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  54. Coleen Lewis
    Coleen Lewis November 30, 2017 at 8:55 am

    So wait Eddy Murray who dem shoulda paint den..

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  55. Alan Harvey-Bowen
    Alan Harvey-Bowen November 30, 2017 at 9:26 am

    The people do not want the statue.

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  56. Jermaine Harding
    Jermaine Harding November 30, 2017 at 9:34 am

    Who cares about nelson

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  57. john jickum November 30, 2017 at 9:38 am

    Idi Amin ! Where are you ?
    Let’s also tear down George Washington House (instead of making it a tourist attraction),Government House,The Garrison,The Cathedral and all churches (especially Anglican churches),Lodge School,titles such as ‘Sir’,’Lady’,’Dame’,’The Honourable’, Q.C.,etc.
    We occupy our minds and valuable time with a statue which has been in the same location since 1813 …when we are PRESENTLY being faced with so many more IMPORTANT and PRESSING issues… increasing crime of all sorts,the imminent devaluation of our dollar,high unemployment,homeless people,starvation,poor infrastructure…White Hill residents,flood prone and sewage back-
    up areas…which worsen daily …WHAT A DISGUSTING DISTRACTION !

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  58. Sandra Lovell Taitt-Eaddy
    Sandra Lovell Taitt-Eaddy November 30, 2017 at 9:46 am

    Protect Nelson and place him in a museum or cemetery

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  59. Dick Forde
    Dick Forde November 30, 2017 at 9:55 am

    I going be honest I pass there every now an then an I don’t even notice or remember about it. It could or couldn’t.

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  60. Tee White November 30, 2017 at 10:08 am

    “But my belief in black enfranchisement and the upliftment of black people has absolutely nothing to do with the hate of anybody, with prejudice, with the dislike of any other race.” Only one problem here, Mr Senator, you are in fact promoting hatred of Black people. Because your statue that you are so outraged about it having some paint thrown on it celebrates a racist criminal who dedicated his life to keeping Black people in sub-human bondage. So love your white racists if you want but don’t pretend you’re not spreading hate.

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    • jennifer November 30, 2017 at 12:42 pm

      As soon as a person talks about black empowerment or
      up-liftment they get labeled and is seen as a hater. That is the card they pull to keep black people under and oppressed. Sickening.

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  61. Rudy Griffith
    Rudy Griffith November 30, 2017 at 10:10 am

    Glad that you Bajans slowly waking up from de coma……Horatio gotta go…….his days are numbered !

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  62. Ossie Moore November 30, 2017 at 10:41 am

    Listen folks , please call and ask Camilla Andrews- Gibson a black mulatta bajan woman and manager of krazy kravings kupcake store in Bridgetown Barbados what is her opinion on all of this ?

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  63. luther thorne November 30, 2017 at 10:48 am

    The Authorities should have moved this statue eversince. Too slow with everything.

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  64. Ronnie St John
    Ronnie St John November 30, 2017 at 11:09 am

    When the crunch comes they can’t do it. I would not vandalize the statue. But I would not recommend “prosecuting to the full extent of the law”. This is a mischievous misdemeanour; with purpose.

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  65. F.A.Rudder November 30, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Emancipation pay out! Subdivision of lands, plots, and tenentries act all of these things provided and yet you are so far behind in acknowledgement it makes me wonder if we have Barbadian pride or is it Black Bajan greed ? The so called educated who inject racism and dysfunctional attitudes to the masses are selfish at heart just to justify their power of authoritative thinking. A get back with envy and attitude! No sirs and mams you should be above that mentality you have advanced to nowhere land on that frame of thought. It’s time for building not breaking a nation and that’s what I find; lots of power hungry blacks have characterized themselves into a stagnant frame of thought. Please ask the Koreans how did they handle slavery by the Chinese and Japanese?

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  66. F.A.Rudder November 30, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Happy Independence Day Barbados and to all Barbadians. I’m wishing you a togetherness day as we shall all pay due respect to the Right Honorable E.W. Barrow for initiating us as a free and fair democratic nation on the Earth’s globe.

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  67. Othneal November 30, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    This article is biased and is at best self indulgent, at worst, propaganda. Going by the comments I have read it seems to me that the vast majority, 80/20% are in favour of having Horatio Nelson’s statue removed. If Barbadian politicians were genuinely democratic they would hold a referendum and in so doing empower the electorate. I suspect cowardice will prevail forcing individuals to resort to aerosols out of frustration.
    To those who are critical of the protestor, would you have preferred it had the protestor used something more dynamic?
    I have a suggestion. Why not give the statue back to the ancestors of the British slavers and declare Barbados a Republic. The likes of Uncle Tom John Watson and all whose identity is so dependent on being tied to our slave past need to be desensitized. It is not in their mindset to be so bold. Let us start writing our own history.

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      Well said Othneal. We need to learn as a people to eat the meat and spit out the bone, not the other way around.

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  68. Anthony Prescott November 30, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    Great thought, Othneal….. Our history has NEVER been written from our point of view. We are a “unique” set of people, therefore our history CANNOT be written or talked about from those who refuse to KNOW THEIR HISTORY or talk from the Oppressor’s viewpoint.

    Why would blacks want Nelson’s statue in their eyes, when they hardly, rarely UPLIFT their on ancestors who died and fought to get them where they are, only for them to TURN their backs and be SELFISH and GREEDY and forget about the masses. The Asians and Chinese progress because they think of OTHERS in their race….

    Will I die, before I see blacks in prominent positions thinking about their own people on a larger scale……I think I will, STILL BRAINWASHED and CONTROLLED, even at lawyers and political levels…… God give me STRENGTH !!

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    • Jennifer November 30, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      lol

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  69. Anthony Prescott November 30, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    Agreed, Jennifer……If you dont discuss things, nothing ever gets resolved. Talk Bajans, talk about your history, talk about the abuse, talk about the lack of support from your black leaders….Talk, talk, talk and you will see how much is wrong.

    This is a MICKEY MOUSE society, nothing works…..The only thing that is working is SIFTING OUR BLOODY MONEY OUT OF THE SAME SYSTEM AND TRYING TO BLIND US WITH ONE CONFUSION AFTER ANOTHER…..

    The Elites are robbing us blind, like they robbed our ancesters, 7 years was the average life for a slave….WORKED TO DEAF !! NO RECOGNITION AND NO REPARATIONS….

    Family is supposed to be tight, look out for each other, look after each other…..BUT AFTER going through the Trauma of slavery, people would sell their own mothers !!

    This is where they left us to start off a society and a nation…. with backward thinking and no alternatives…..

    People that father said “Love thy neighbour as thyself”….. Listen to the father, NOT YOUR OPPRESSORS !!

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  70. Anthony Prescott November 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    iTS SAD THAT ONE OF OUR “OWN” is defending a statue that upholds HIS degradation……He need psychological help!! Something seriously wrong there with his assumptions. Bring in Malcolm X or the Black Panthers to give him some “serious” talk !!

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  71. Vad50 November 30, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    The defacement is wrong and disrespectful. Taking down Nelson does not erase the history; and it will always be part of Barbados’ history. Removing it does not remove the history. And we need to be reminded of where we came form; and what our ancestors suffered for their children’ future. The same descendant have have no respect for their ancestors.

    It is history, and will live us. Just like the history that Barbadians of African Descent are making today. Just think what futures generations of your children will think about the history you are creating today. Some the future generations will be as critical of you, as you are of the slave era. Be careful what history you are making.

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  72. Mark Adamson November 30, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    “Defacing Nelson doesn’t mean anything. He is part of our history. Our ancestors sell us to them, so it’s like we are forgetting who we are, and this is not the time for that. For them to deface him because he bought slaves is crazy. He is part of Barbados, and if not for the ancestors we wouldn’t be here. So let us respect Nelson for who he was”, Augustine told Barbados TODAY, while adding that Government should consider erecting statues of the country’s heroes to “show Barbadians that this is history”.

    This is the type of ferocious cocktail of fact and ignorance that is pervading this Barbados society, notwithstanding the continuing efforts of some citizens of Barbados – Mr. David Comissiong, Professor Hilary Beckles, Trevor Marshall, Ian Marshall, Trevor Prescod, etc. to get more Black people aware of this glaring monstrosity, its history and the person in whose likeness it was fashioned.

    Now let me break down and respond to the arrant foolishness that was reported:

    “Defacing Nelson does not mean anything”. It does to many people in Barbados. For, the person or persons who did it – spoiling it more – meant they do understand the assumptions behind symbols of power. One such assumption is that many White people think that they can continue to ideologically politically commercially dominate Black people in Barbados. They are wrong!! So, rather than actually staging retalitory attacks against white people (which I would not support however) over their continued exploitation and oppression of many of our Black people, the individual or individuals attacked such a symbol of power – and a nasty one at that – letting many white people know that they have power too to attack such a symbol.

    “He is part of our history”. Whilst Nelson is part of our everlasting history. History is the truthful accounts and records of the past, present and future happenings of a people. It has become an odious but thankfully expungible part of our history. And by removing and toppling Nelson, those of us who will help remove or topple this statue – will not only change history’s course but will also help to write it in a way to reflect tearing down and disposal and many of the reasons therefor.

    “Our ancestors sold us to them”. Some – not all – of our ancestors – in Africa – facilitated the enslavement of our forbearers. By referring to that though does not correct or remedy the inhuman, cruel and barbarous wrongs that were inflicted on the souls of our Black people, by those inhuman terroristic white enslavers, historically and otherwise.

    “It is like we have forgetting who we are”. No.No. many of us have not forgot what we have read and what we have been told rightly and truthfully pertaining to the history of our enslavement. That is why Horation Nelson must be removed!! For, Black conscious people understand that it is monstrously out of place and offensive to our levels of consciousness to have a likeness of a person who supported the enslavement of our Black ancestors. Too, many of such Black conscious people must be alongside the most courageous and revolutionary of the broad masses and middle classes when it is removed or toppled by them.

    “This is not the time for that” – I assume the report meant putting some paint colours to the statue. If so, then it was the right and exact time. It happened at that time as it was bound to happen at that time. The person or persons is a master/are masters of the art of timing. Hence, they were very right to have done it at this time of our celebrating our 51 th year of independence.

    “For them to deface him because he bought slaves is crazy”. The individual or individuals who put paint colours and put graffiti on the statue/plinth did so because they had the power, capacity and wherewithal to do so – and not because Nelson bought enslaved people. There is no connection between the two variables. They are years and years apart, even. Still, the individual or individuals succeeded in getting many of us to understand the sickness of the incongruity of having Horation Nelson still standing over a predominantly black people.

    “He is part of Barbados”. Whilst this has been so for just over 200 years, it has been a removable part of Barbados. Moreover, it does not mean that it must continue in our Bridgetown such that when Black conscious people see or read about it, they must be have to contend with what it represents. Nelson must go and must not be part of Bridgetown in the forseeable future.

    “So let us respect Nelson for who he was”. Certainly not for the criminal enslavement values and ideologies that he stood for!!

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  73. Mark Adamson November 30, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Correction – whilst Nelson is part of our history, it is not part of our ever lasting history.

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  74. Alan Winter December 5, 2017 at 10:00 am

    They are confusing OUR history with THEIR history……But the thought pattern is that we should think for the better of them and their race, any difference would be out of the norm !!

    Thats how psychologically messed up, they left blacks and now think that what THEY aspire to, we should too….. Emancipation was a joke, just like independence today….. Actions speak louder than words !!

    No therapy, no new behaviours since Emancipation….what type of people do you expect to see in society today????

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