Let pedestrians cross for themselves warns road traffic advisor

A  former president of the Barbados Road Safety Association (BRSA) is calling for an immediate end to the practice of drivers of public service vehicles (PSVs) stopping traffic to facilitate disembarking passengers crossing the road.

The appeal follows closely on the heels of this island’s 19th road fatality on Tuesday.

Hanannia Reeves, a student of the Princess Margaret Secondary School, was struck by a car while attempting to cross the road near his home at Campaign Castle, St George on Tuesday evening.

Police say the 13-year-old had just alighted a minibus and was attempting to cross in front of the bus when he was struck down by an overtaking car.
In delivering the ruling Democratic Labour Party’s (DLP) lunchtime lecture at party headquarters on George Street, St Michael today, former BRSA head Junior Jordan, who is also board member of the Barbados Transport Authority, was careful not to link his comments to Tuesday’s unfortunate incident.

However,  he said that the practice by PSV drivers amounted to “a disaster waiting to happen”, arguing that pedestrians must at all times have clear sight of the road in both directions in order to determine for themselves if it is safe to make the crossing.

“Stopping and stretching out your hand to allow a passenger to cross the road is absolutely and categorically not the correct way to facilitate persons crossing the road. It is actually a recipe for disaster and death,” said Jordan, while noting that the issue had been a hot topic all week in call-in programmes and the shops and other places.

“No driver has the right to call out anybody and any pedestrian should use their own eyes to see that the road is clear and use their own volition to only move when they are absolutely sure that it is safe,” he stressed.

Jordan also suggested that “any person alighting from any vehicle should wait until the vehicle has moved away then look right, then left before determining that it is safe to cross,” warning that “the other way that we have now become accustomed to seeing is totally wrong”.
The road safety activist further suggested that education, coupled with the right mix of deterrents be put in place to root out the practice.
“While I say yes to education, there is an old adage which states that ‘you can take the horse to the water but you can’t make it drink’. This is an attitudinal problem and what we need to do is to keep reinforcing but persons must also be willing to learn,” Jordan said.
He called on all drivers to show pedestrians the same
courtesy they would wish for themselves, lamenting that pedestrians were often made to pay the ultimate price for the mistakes of other road users. “We must put ourselves in the position of a pedestrian and if we do that we will recognize that life is quite difficult for a pedestrian, so we need to help them by slowing down. These days people don’t slow down as everyone seems to want to get where they are going in a hurry,” he said.

54 Responses to Let pedestrians cross for themselves warns road traffic advisor

  1. Yvette Sasha Bynoe
    Yvette Sasha Bynoe October 6, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    In agreement sir

  2. Cecilia Millar
    Cecilia Millar October 6, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    Stupse what about a blind person getting off a bus and the driver helping that person to cross he can’t see sometimes peopĺe don’t even want give way to that situation people need to patient and considerate of others

    • Arlington Andrews Farley
      Arlington Andrews Farley October 6, 2017 at 11:13 pm

      That would be different to the practice that they indulge in at the moment,

    • Cecilia Millar
      Cecilia Millar October 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm

      It ain’t no different crossing is crossing bet you are one the drivers that have no mercy for people

    • Alicia Beckles
      Alicia Beckles October 7, 2017 at 12:35 am

      Are you a driver Cecilia Millar

    • Cecilia Millar
      Cecilia Millar October 7, 2017 at 12:40 am

      What does that question have to do with the price of milk??

      • andy g October 7, 2017 at 10:12 am

        every vehicle has a blind spot.you will miss a whole car in a split second, only to see it appear suddenly.You don,t seem to be a driver.I,ll bet my last dollar that if a mini bus driver tell you to cross,you will tell go along to make sure for yourself.

    • Sophia Cumberbatch
      Sophia Cumberbatch October 7, 2017 at 7:29 am

      Ya talking bare RH that’s why. Wunna don’t know the things motorists encounter out there on a daily basis. Wait until the road clear and cross.

    • andy g October 7, 2017 at 9:59 am

      wrong.only if he move to parking position and exit the vehicle to make sure no traffic is coming.One thing for sure, bajans comes to the assistance of the physical challenge,so letting a blind person off a bus is no problem for the driver.

  3. Cecilia Millar
    Cecilia Millar October 6, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    All this no crossing ya gotta cross somewhere and some people need a helping hand

    • Arlington Andrews Farley
      Arlington Andrews Farley October 6, 2017 at 11:16 pm

      People been getting across the street for years without the drivers stopping traffic and letting them cross in front of their buses , this has to stop

    • Cecilia Millar
      Cecilia Millar October 6, 2017 at 11:30 pm

      That stretch of road from brereton to Windsor is one long dark lonely deserted road even in the day so you wanna leave a person standing there no light and Bush

    • Cyan Jada
      Cyan Jada October 7, 2017 at 6:32 am

      Better for them to stand and WAIT until it’s safe

    • Shelly-Ann Caddle
      Shelly-Ann Caddle October 7, 2017 at 7:58 am

      Tell that to a child 4-14 and see how it sink in kids will trust any ADULT to put it across the road safely drivers need to have patience overtaking buses at any time should be banned need a law for that

    • Cecilia Millar
      Cecilia Millar October 7, 2017 at 8:08 am

      Shelly-Ann caddie I don’t pay these people no mind hear them blowing a lot stupid hot air most drivers need to have patience and use the lil wisdom they have I grow up hearing if you see a ball cross the street look out for a child I put the same thing to a bus or a van if you see them stop at a bus stop or whatever and the man signalling to stop just STOP you can’t see ahead why them don’t tell the authorities to put lighting in that area?? After dark and you wanna leave someone stranded there in darkness and in Bush and a child at that??I was on the 3rd white mark of a pedestrian crossing and man almost took me out in the daytime

  4. Cecilia Millar
    Cecilia Millar October 6, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    What is the correct way to crosspeople getting on like the boy got off the van and made a dash across the road a dark ass place like that area you wanna leave a child in the dark and in Bush?? The blasted man had a right to wait and see what happening ahead of him he neck want twisting off he body I bet he waited hours over a few minutes I doubt most people know the general area that area is like a community cut off from society for years

  5. Desmond Edwards
    Desmond Edwards October 6, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    Biggest fraud in Barabados…..people does get run over on pedestrian crossing s

  6. Pedro Greaves
    Pedro Greaves October 6, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    People need to take emotions out of things. How many more lives will be lost in the process? We can say be more vigilant as drivers and be more patient when we see a bus. How long were we sayin that? Let’s keep preaching that but now tell the bus men to drive off and don’t let anyone cross as other motorist can hardly see anything if someone crosses in front or behind. If we adopt both approaches then hopefully NO life will be lost as one is too many.

  7. Trudy Walker
    Trudy Walker October 6, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    I agree

  8. Shelly-Ann Caddle
    Shelly-Ann Caddle October 6, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    look you cheuspe Why you don’t warn Motorist to be PATIENT and adhear to road signals wait before overtaking cause they don’t know what they going encounter coming in the other direction. I so sorry that little boy lost his life if only a big truck was coming in the opposite direction now you would hear a different tune oh the psv man shoulda stop he cheupse

  9. Trudy Walker
    Trudy Walker October 6, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    My thinking exactly

  10. Paul Chestnut
    Paul Chestnut October 6, 2017 at 11:45 pm

    Tell your party fix the damn potholes in the road das wah…people hitting in these quakers and running off the roads….

  11. Cecilia Millar
    Cecilia Millar October 6, 2017 at 11:58 pm

    The thing that amaze me where he was overtaking was approaching a bend so sorry it wasn’t 10 wheeler he Butt up on when he overtake I have no sympathy for that driver he should make to be put in a position that he’d be walking forward and his head looking back

  12. Joy Wharton
    Joy Wharton October 7, 2017 at 12:02 am

    I disagree with him. When a public transport vehicles stops to let a pedestrian cross, they need to hold out a crossing sign. Drivers in Barbados need to stop speeding in those darn small roads. Don’t even have side walks. The infrastructure in Barbados sucks. The politicians do not care, as they are not the ones walking the streets

    • Damian Williams
      Damian Williams October 7, 2017 at 8:51 am

      No. A PSV driver/conductor is neither police nor traffic warden and has no right directing traffic. Pedestrians including school children should cross at the nearest pedestrian crossing

    • andy g October 7, 2017 at 10:20 am

      bare B.S how politics get into this. and where do drivers hold out crossing signs.seems like the only place you saw is ny city.

  13. Crest Nova
    Crest Nova October 7, 2017 at 12:41 am

    From a child I was taught never cross the road in front of nor behind a bus, always make sure you can clearly see both sides of the road.. that remained with me through out my child hood into adult hood, I also taught my children that. So much so that if a bus etc. Stop to allow my children to cross the road they signal to the driver to go ahead that it is okay and they wait until they can see both sides of the road clearly. However, I think the problem of today is that so many ZR drivers are now working as drivers for the state own public transport and they carried they bad driving skills to the corporation, not all of them but most of them does a lot of crap on the road, that’s why other road users (drivers) try they utmost best to get from behind them when they see the opportunity. Additional, the road laws/rules and regulations needs looking over, few examples are: if you run in the back of someone you are wrong. Drivers abuse this because they have the mindset “I goin bound out in front that person, cause once my back get hit them wrong”. On the topic of crossing, I always wonder why pedestrians crossing are place around “blind” corners and just as u about to clear a roundabout…. These too need changing.

    • Pedro Greaves
      Pedro Greaves October 7, 2017 at 6:09 am

      Agreed. Every situation is different as well. Some of the psv drivers put out their hand to stop traffic not for people to cross but to block the road so that other psv vehicles don’t overtake and get ahead to pick up other passengers.
      Other than that of a pedestrian crossing then I support no bus allowing people to cross.

    • Prince Trémaine
      Prince Trémaine October 7, 2017 at 7:01 am

      For the crossings by the roundabouts, where do you propose they be moved to? I’ve personally said they should be moved as well but with more though they are at the safest and most logical place right now.

  14. Fay Ann
    Fay Ann October 7, 2017 at 3:52 am

    Two words “road etiquette”…it’s something that’s lacking…awhile back I almost lost my life because a SUV saw fit to overtake TWO tour busses by using the hard shoulder of the highway by Kendal hill gas station …mind you I was standing on the same said hard shoulder by the pedestrian crossing!!!!…the St. Thomas plates are still etched in my mind.

  15. archy perch October 7, 2017 at 4:12 am

    I disagree with you on the flyovers Junior. You surprised me when you said you are for them. Tell me where is the land space for five flyovers between Warrens and BET??? And do you know the damage to the environmental aesthetics all along that highway. Even seeing these monsters from the air when we return to Barbados, will be a eye sore. For each flyover, there must be get on and get off ramp. They will require land space. Under those ramps will be drifters and homeless persons, hence garbage, hence more crime and old cars et al. I am going by my experience of living in big cities with flyovers . We need an efficient bus service; we need to widen and maintain our infrastructure; and we need a Highway Patrol Police Unit. I dread the day the BLP – should they get back in – bring back this horrible idea of flyovers. We cant even police the ABC properly far less flyovers. Oh Yes there will be flyovers for real, as the present crop of drivers, especially with the big vehicles, fly over the three foot high edges of the same flyovers, landing on traffic below. I oppose flyovers in Barbados.We are not big like Trinidad, Guyana and Jamaica. All cities I know have traffic problems, we in Barbados must decentralise things and spread the load. More vehicles mean more clutter and more bottle necks. Careful thought should and must be given.

  16. Ian Edwards
    Ian Edwards October 7, 2017 at 5:20 am

    166 square miles and rushing to go no where..that man is a moroon is he in government umm

  17. Bititi Dage
    Bititi Dage October 7, 2017 at 5:21 am

    Both school children died as a result of crossing infront/behind vehicles. It is SAFER for the pedestrian and the motorist if all concerned can see CLEARLY. Better judgements are made that way.

  18. John Everatt October 7, 2017 at 5:35 am

    Finally someone has spoken out on this topic. In North America every school kid knows that you wait until the school bus or any other bus has left before looking both ways and crossing the road. This needs to be taught in schools here in Barbados as well. It is a very simple thing that could save many lives.

    • andy g October 7, 2017 at 10:39 am

      it’s the law.you can’t go pass a schoolbus with flashing red lights even though you are going in the opposite directing. in some areas the driver block the street with the bus

  19. Colin Daniel October 7, 2017 at 6:47 am

    I thought that the out stretched hand, a hand signal under the road traffic act, was to in fact indicate for other drivers not to overtake. Has that changed?

  20. Sophia Cumberbatch
    Sophia Cumberbatch October 7, 2017 at 7:22 am

    To pedestrians complaining about the motorist need to check wunna self
    1. walking around corners and backing the oncoming vehicle.
    2. walking two abreast on the same small roads that cars drive on.
    3. seeing oncoming vehicles and strolling leisurely across the road.
    4. walking past the pedestrian crossings and crossing elsewhere
    5. hopping the jersey barriers on the highway
    6.walking at nights in black or very dark clothing
    So you all also need to have consideration for drivers and by the way motorists become pedestrians at some point in time because we have to park our vehicles especially if you are going into town or to an event .

    • Rodger D Worrell-Mason
      Rodger D Worrell-Mason October 7, 2017 at 8:35 am

      Thank you

    • andy g October 7, 2017 at 10:23 am

      you got it so right.they wont even look back to see what behind them.they set themselves for the next casualty

  21. Margreet Thompson
    Margreet Thompson October 7, 2017 at 8:09 am

    People getting on like it’s something new to see drivers doing the appropriate hand signals for the the other motorists behind them to stop…it has always been our culture to cross either in front or behind vehicles…you see conductors or even drivers aiding both adults and children to cross the roads in front of their vehicles and you would still see an idiot trying to pass a whole line of vehicles only to butt up on persons crossing….some motorist also need to know what certain hand signals mean because clearly they seem not to know when they get behind the wheel…some don’t even indicate that they are turning….or rush out from side roads in front of you without being given permission from others…some would see persons stepping onto the pedestrian crossings and speed cross forcing people to jump back or freeze where they are walking…what about the drivers when the rain is falling or stopped but there are puddles on the ground driving so fast and anyone making their way to be soaked…the fact of the matter there have to be respect that pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists, and motorist all have to share these roads and people have to respect this and give due care and diligence each and every day…as the elders would say…every day don’t break the same….there’s an unguarded moment for everyone…it only takes a second for something to happen

    • Cecilia Millar
      Cecilia Millar October 7, 2017 at 8:21 am

      I so agree with you ma’am in learning you must do the hand signals afterthat they dont even use them or the indicators because the Windows roll up so they can’t put out their hands and they heads buried in a phone

    • Margreet Thompson
      Margreet Thompson October 7, 2017 at 8:26 am

      You are so true and you are seeing more and more people driving and texting and reading every text coming through on their phones which is in their laps while they are driving so clearly they are not giving much attention to the road

  22. Marvin Harding
    Marvin Harding October 7, 2017 at 8:59 am

    Lol Cecelia Millar u crazyeeee

  23. Rodger D Worrell-Mason
    Rodger D Worrell-Mason October 7, 2017 at 9:07 am

    I’m hoping somebody could tell me what’s the purpose of “hazard lights”

    Please cite the source when you’re saying what is their use. Leave your emotions and feelings out if it.

    State the facts, please?

    Thanks so much.

  24. Mac October 7, 2017 at 10:30 am

    I hope the driver or conductor involved is charged for Manslaughter

  25. Bob October 7, 2017 at 10:45 am

    The most annoying thing is public service vehicles driving and trying to prevent you from overtaking them by intentionally driving in the middle of the road or leaving their indicator always on…

  26. Jose October 7, 2017 at 11:10 am

    I fully concur with what Jordan is saying … let people cross the road when they have full visibility that the road is clear, it will be the best thing for them and for motorist … I am a diver and my philosophy on the road is simply “it’s not who’s right or wrong, it’s who’s left”

  27. Helicopter (8P) October 7, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    We have to stop this Once i’m in my car I’m on top of the world and I’m blowing by this here mini bus or ZR van like Flash Gordon! slow down or even stop and observe what passengers are about to do.

  28. colleta October 10, 2017 at 4:44 am

    Trust your own instincts, cross road when you follow the left right left all clear no driver expect someone to cross from the front/behind a vehicle with no clear vision of on coming traffic.

  29. GailR October 11, 2017 at 10:52 am

    The practice of bus and van drivers putting out an arm, with the aim of stopping traffic to allow a pedestrian to pass in front the vehicle, creates the perfect conditions for a pedestrian to be struck. Drivers expect mass transit vehicles to stop as they are constantly taking on and letting off passengers, and it is perfectly acceptable for a driver behind one of these vehicles to signal that he/she will overtake and then do so, as long as road conditions allow.

    The danger occurs when the van drivers attempt to stop traffic behind them. Many times drivers behind the vans do not see that outstretched arm, and if the driver has seen from a distance away that the road is clear, he/she may already be moving to overtake. And if that driver is moving at speed, within the speed limit, then he/or she may not see that outstretched arm in time to stop. The situation is particularly dangerous because the height of the van or bus impedes the approaching driver from seeing any pedestrian and is unable to see the need to brake.

    PSV and other drivers are neither traffic police nor traffic wardens and are not authorized to make decisions like this that place pedestrians in danger. The aim may be to facilitate the pedestrian, but it only places persons in peril. This practice may be a local one but it is a dangerous one that has to stop. Someone from another country who is driving on our roads will have no knowledge of this deeply strange practice, will not be expecting such an action from the driver of a PSV and while overtaking in a safe manner may hit a pedestrian.

    Public education, as well as instructing the drivers to desist from this practice will help, as well as mandatory posting of signs in the vans or buses, instructing pedestrians not cross in front of or behind the PSV, and to ensure that the road is clear before crossing. Pedestrians must also do their part by ensuring that they can see the road clearly and verifying that road conditions are safe before crossing, which is all the more critical if the pedestrian is crossing at a spot that is not a marked crossing.

    The government entity in charge of placing lighting on the roads and locating pedestrian crossings needs to ensure that roads are illuminated and that crossings are not located in spots which endanger the lives of pedestrians. Placing crossings just outside roundabouts, especially in this era of the logic-defying jambuster, is another recipe for disaster. We all have to do our part to make sure the roads are safe for all users. Pedestrians do not wish to be injured or killed, and drivers do not want to have to live with the trauma of having injured or killed another human being, when they were following the rules.

  30. teasingbow132 October 13, 2017 at 10:35 am

    may he rest in peace but at that time on the night his parents or guardian should be waiting at the bus stop for him because out side is getting dark early on evening.

  31. teasingbow132 October 13, 2017 at 11:07 am



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