Mia not the only one without a legal certificate, suggests Hinkson

Mia not the only lawyer without a legal certificate, suggests Hinkson

An Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) representative is insisting that his leader, Mia Mottley, is suitably qualified to become the next Prime Minister of Barbados, even if she does not have a legal certificate to show.

The ruling Democratic Labour (DLP) is attempting to hold Mottley to account over her qualifications to practise law in Barbados.

At its just-concluded 62nd annual conference the ruling party passed a resolution mandating DLP General Secretary George Pilgrim to draft correspondence to Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite asking him to clear the air on the issue.

However, addressing a meeting of the BLP Women’s League at the party’s Roebuck Street, The City headquarters last night, Hinkson argued that there was no real breach to speak of, while suggesting that there was at least one sitting judge who is in the same boat as Mottley in terms of not having a legal certificate.

However, he told party supporters that with elections around the corner, the governing DLP had now sunk to a new low, and was simply scraping the bottom of the barrel in a desperate bid to hold on to power.

“I can’t believe that a governing party [is going to] spend its time . . . passing a resolution that somebody who qualified 30 years ago, who had testimonials and reference letters from the then Prime Minister of Barbados, the Rt Excellent Errol Barrow, himself a top lawyer . . . who had testimonials and reference from Sir Henry Forde, one of the longest parliamentarians in the Parliament of Barbados, one of the leading lawyers in the Caribbean, and that you now going spend a Sunday afternoon passing some foolish resolution that you going to now write the attorney general for him to take it to court that you got to have some legal certificate,” he told the gathering of BLP supporters.

In fact, he went as far as to suggest that Mottley did not need a legal certificate to practise law.

“At that time [when Mottley entered the legal profession] that was allowed . . . . There is a judge, someone who has been a judge for 15 years, who came through the same way,” he said.

And while he did not name the judge, he pointed out that he still sits on the bench.

“So what they [going to] say, that all decisions of that judge are null and void; that everybody who is in Glendairy sentenced by that judge should be released now?”

It was Minister of the Environment Dr Denis Lowe who had openly challenged Mottley back in June 2015 to “bring proof” that she was qualified to practise law here.

At the time, Lowe had also warned Mottley that if she could not present the necessary proof of her legal certification, she could face either a $5,000 fine or 12 months in jail for practising law illegally.

During the recent Budget debate Mottley attempted to settle the matter by holding aloft a set of personal documents, which she made a record of the House, to prove she was an attorney-at-law of good repute.

However, there was no copy of a law degree among the documents presented in the Lower House, which is the only proof that Government is interested in.

Still, Hinkson is adamant that no legal breach has occurred.

In dismissing the DLP’s resolution, he said: “When you scraping at the bottom of the barrel you come up with those things”.

In his address themed, The Elitism within the Democratic Labour Party, the Case for Mia Amor Mottley to become Prime Minister of Barbados, Hinkson also took the Prime Minister to task for suggesting during the DLP’s annual conference that Mottley as current BLP leader does not represent the average working class Barbadian.

“It is absolute folly and unchristian to speak about someone in terms of the accident of their birth.

“People have to be measured by the quality of their character, not by the colour of their skin or by whatever social class they might have been born in,” he suggested to Stuart.

“You will tell me that because Mia Mottley was born to be a lawyer and she is a Mottley she can’t be prime minister? he asked, adding “she ain’t ask to be born, and no one should ever be ashamed of who they born to.

“It is the strength of your character as you become an adult that is important, not the circumstances of your birth, whether rich or poor, white or black,” he insisted.

Pointing out that Mottley was a former attorney general and a Queen’s Counsel who had won cases at Privy Council as a constitutional lawyer, he insisted that a person must be judged by “the character that you possess, the quality that you possess, the passion that you possess to make life better for people, to do something for people other than for yourself and your friends and your immediate family”.

Therefore, “you cannot now question Mia’s competence to be Prime Minister of Barbados for her intellect or understanding,” Hinkson argued.

He pointed out that Mottley was identified from the late 1990s during her first term as a Cabinet minister and while still in her 20s as one of the 40 young global political leaders.

“There is no one who has ever come to the people of Barbados to ask humbly to become Prime Minister who has had the political and other life experiences of Mia Mottley,” he said, also recalling that she was chosen to be a senator back in 1991 before being elected parliamentarian from 1994 until the present.

111 Responses to Mia not the only one without a legal certificate, suggests Hinkson

  1. Saga Boy September 12, 2017 at 12:55 am

    If someone who practiced medicine for more than 15 years was discovered not to have the requisite qualifications even after after years of good work he or she would be charged and possibly imprisoned. I cant wait to hear the spin you BLP supporters will give this. Who will be the first?

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    • Carson C Cadogan September 12, 2017 at 6:53 am

      You hit the nail right on the head.

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    • hcalndre September 12, 2017 at 9:29 pm

      @Saga Boy, Maureen Holder, the yard fowls and the clueless DLP that not even the United States Supreme Justice a Law degree is not required.

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  2. Mark My Word September 12, 2017 at 1:01 am

    Mama Mia just need to send a junior lawyer to do the court cases while she runs the Office and get the big jobs, don’t need the legal Cert.
    No problem there

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 5:12 am

      Are you basting your comment on if Mia is exonerated or if this case is allowed to slip???

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  3. Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 4:43 am

    I do not understand what is classified as a ” real breach”. It is either a breach or it isn’t, one or the other. So then she don’t have a certificate? If so both she and that standing judge are fraudulent and should be canned. People getting jailed for a drink bout hey. Regardless of how much cases she won. Them need reviewing too. And why should the DLP not use this opportunity to fire at will. If you stupid enough to leave a loop hole, then go through it. This is about big bucks you know.

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 4:59 am

      This BLP representative is saying that Mia is suitably qualified although she may not have a certificate to show. Confusing!!!!! So then why does our children have to go to school to get certificates to get a job. We can all then work by learning on the job, dump school. This thing is simple to sort, but I am sure it will not be due to the persons involved.

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      • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 9:28 am

        If a person lose a certificate, surely they can go back to their institution of learning and get a copy of another one. Simple. Or is it????????????????????

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  4. Rickstar September 12, 2017 at 5:59 am

    Wow thaanks Freundel this is definitely gling to reduce crime and put more food on my table. Mias certificate wow

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  5. BIGSKY September 12, 2017 at 6:29 am

    I dont care if she have a Birth Certificate,Baptism Certificate,Death Certificate,Graduation Certificate,Marriage Certificate, OR AN AFRICAN SNAIL CERTIFICATE,I VOTING FOR HER AND THE BLP.Prime Minister Fromhell Stuart has 1 and it aint make any difference, meaning he educated but aint got no sense.

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 7:51 am

      Lauuudddd, the only certificate missing here is a clearance certificate.

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  6. Carson C Cadogan September 12, 2017 at 6:52 am

    We know , Hinkson. They are three other people.

    What about her LLB?

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  7. Anton Brown
    Anton Brown September 12, 2017 at 6:54 am

    A lot of theses leaders/ idiots need to really think before open their mouth. First a college degrees does not always mean you are educated, society as shown that. There are a lot of so called educated people who are only good for relating what they learn in a text book but do not know how to either apply practical knowledge, basic common sense or the ability to rationzie and reason. Next a law degree or the absence of one does not determine a person ability to run a country. Hell look at the current leaders of Barbados now with they law degrees and they all lack knowledge or the ability to reason or advance the country. The USA one of the greatest and wealthiest nations on the earth had 10 Preaident without a simple college education but they were able to not only run the country but help to build it to what it is today. Ronald Regan never went to law school but became President. Stop with the nonsense and propaganda or trying to influence people with basic stupidity, false information and feeling that you can perpetuate a doctrine to one which can be a false misrepresentation to the people. A lot of You leaders need to not only be held accountable for your actions but to be exposed for your lies. Explain to me why you so called lawyers and leaders of Barbados with all of your education manage to run the country straight down the drain and sold it out to whoever wave a dollar bill in front of you at the expense of the average Bajan. If the ones holding a Law degree manage to put the country in the situation it’s in, then you prove that holding a law degree does not determine your ability to either govern, lead the people or advance a nation to better that it was a decade ago. Wish a bunch of you idiots will shut up.
    In case you want to know who the 10 USA presidents were without a college degree further most a law degree let me list them
    Andrew Jackson
    Zachary Taylor
    Millard Fillmore
    James Monroe
    Grover Cleveland
    William Harvey
    George Washington
    Harry S. Truman
    Some of them were not only the founding Fathers of American Democracy but they went on to help write the constitution of the USA, proving a law degree does not enchance your ability to run a country or nation.
    Stop trying to brainwash the people into the false doctrine you trying to pass.

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    • andy g September 12, 2017 at 10:34 am

      The point is missing here by many.Is she qualify to practice in Barbados?Only if changes were made to the law, you could be the biggest lawyer in the world and wont be able to practice here unless you passed from the Hugh Wooding law school.

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      • tedd September 12, 2017 at 5:07 pm

        the question here is if it was a requirement at the time of her joining the Bar. if it was not at that time there is no problem now.

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        • Toyab September 14, 2017 at 12:50 pm

          yuh hit the nail on the head Tedd…ppl seem to be missing that part

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    • Bernard Mccollin
      Bernard Mccollin September 12, 2017 at 5:14 pm

      Why waste time going College ? Not disagreeing with you , just asking

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    • Anton Brown
      Anton Brown September 12, 2017 at 6:57 pm

      That’s a good question when you look at the fact that the worlds billionaires for the most part either never went to college or graduate. Mark Zuckerberg never graduate from Harvard, Steve Jobs founder of Apple drop out after one semester, Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Richard Brandon to name a few, yet these are the 1% of the population which controls the wealth of the world. Take professional athletes who signed multi- million dollars contracts before finishing college. College is designed for those you follow society set of rules. There are plenty of people without college degrees running major corporation and making more than those with college degree and setting the rules and guildlines for these corporations. When you think about it, outside of a Medical Doctor, Podiatrist, lawyer and few other professional do you need a college degree? Also having a college degree,but being unable to pass a bar exam does not make you a practicing lawyer and same applies to a doctor who can’t pass his residency or license. To often society set standard on the average individual. College today is a corporation in the most part,in the business of making money. Most people today go into debt trying to afford a degree and then spend the rest of their life making a mediocre salary trying to pay back the debt accure by paying for college. I don’t deter anyone from getting a college degree. I have my degree, however life have thought me that they are self thought individual just as educated or more than those who holds degree. Next can experience be traded for book knowledges when one is unable to applied to the real world what they learn in a book. Take for example two individual in the same profession one started at 18 the other spent 4 years in college and started at 22 with no experience outside the classroom, both are now 22, ask yourself who have more experience. In today’s world all the degrees with no experience Is just paper.Corporation wants hands on knowledge and application. I think often society is not truthful to how the world operates. Look they are also plenty of these so called educated fools, they only repeat what is learn in a book by can neither apply, interpret or rationalize.

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      • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 8:08 pm

        @Anton Brown – Bang on. All this college/Uni thing is the oppressor implementation for slaves to compete for their positions aka crumbs. You are correct the children of the corporation/business owners do not need a paper to run that business. Same thing with school too. These elite children go to school with yours and then will turn and interview your child as they are running their parents company while your child now compete with like peers for the crumbs. Mind you your child has more qualifications than the elite child, and quick them will go to manager without a paper. Pure widespread plantation matrix. Then you got the accolade loving politicians playing with the minds of the submissive, sub-thinking masses with $hit like this, when they know full well that not one wuk up ain’t going to become of this nonsense. And very few can see any of it too.

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    • hcalndre September 12, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      Anton tell the DLP, Maureen Holder, Saga Boy and the other yard fowls that you don`t even have to have a Law degree to become a US Supreme Court Justice.

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  8. harry turnover September 12, 2017 at 6:55 am

    Completely agree Big Sky as though on election day one gine see on the slip Mia Mottley BLP and in brackets no legal certificate.
    In that case one should also see something behind Lowe DLP and Michael Lashley DLP too.

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  9. Carson C Cadogan September 12, 2017 at 7:06 am

    This is showing how flawed the system really is. Why was is it necessary for these people to enter the Judicial system through the back door?

    David Thompson had his Law certificate and his LLb.

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  10. Sandra Adams Bacchus
    Sandra Adams Bacchus September 12, 2017 at 7:11 am

    Well said

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  11. Patricia Julyon
    Patricia Julyon September 12, 2017 at 7:24 am

    Is this an admission Hinkson?

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  12. Mark Rudder
    Mark Rudder September 12, 2017 at 7:33 am

    I really don’t believe you’ll falling fuh that mess. It ain’t nothing that needs addressing or battling. If you do you are falling to they playbook. Less said on issues such as these are best.

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    • Pat Prescod
      Pat Prescod September 12, 2017 at 7:58 am

      Why mark if it was someone else Mia would take it to the highest level

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 10:31 am

      Yes i agree with you 100% Pat. She either come clean or not at all.

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  13. Rawle Spooner
    Rawle Spooner September 12, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Ok if she needs a legal certificate and don’t have one that’s a problem but question why was it never challenge before and why was she allowed to operate without it in the first place.While at it let’s check all persons in Barbados that’s operating in the legal profession to see who don’t have their’s either including the sitting judge,not a fan of any of these political parties in Barbados period but this looks and smell like politricks at play here.Also let’s go further and get rid of all the people in Barbados that are doing jobs and in high positions who don’t have proper qualifications and don’t belong who just there because they voted for one of these political parties or got friends in these said political parties.Barbados needs a real purge and not just at election time.

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    • Rasta Wain September 12, 2017 at 9:01 am

      it was challenged before, she produced a folder that didn’t contain the document that was requested , that leaves 2 questions, 1. did she think that she could fool parliament and the people of barbados?2. are we expected to be be led by a person who is willing to employ deceit to gain power?

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      • hcalndre September 13, 2017 at 8:17 pm

        @Rasta Wain; is a law degree a must have to be the PM., maybe Barbados, because it seems that the only educated people in Barbados are the lawyers that came out of Cave Hill and if Barbados had a Court that would prosecute them for the crimes that they practice, many of them would be elevated to Dodds`prison. To be United States Supreme Court judge, a Law degree is not necessary, so tell me why Barbados think that you must have a law degree to be a PM. At present they have a lawyer, look what he and the others have done to Gabby`s Barbados.

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    • Conchita Moseley
      Conchita Moseley September 12, 2017 at 9:45 am

      Rawls you dun know dee score .

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    • Dana Jemmott
      Dana Jemmott September 12, 2017 at 9:51 am

      Well said

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  14. Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 7:46 am

    This people like crappo in crab holes and hate integrity.

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  15. Tyrone Corbin
    Tyrone Corbin September 12, 2017 at 7:49 am

    Question here last election just before it was called the BLP had a coup and remove her by some of her sitting friends that still there now also. So my question to Mr Hinkson WHO pushing you to start the coup again Because as a lawyer you should know when to keep your TRAP shut it would have blowen over so this is telling me the same people ganging up again.

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    • Roc Kinn
      Roc Kinn September 12, 2017 at 8:36 am

      George Payne and Hinckson are plaintiff and defendant in a court case over odious allegations. He should be last to open his big mouth. Lawyers worldwide are seen as crooks not to be trusted. There are honest attorneys but the dishonest among them tarnish the profession. Present your legal certificate Miss Mottley and close down the controversy. If you don’t have a legal certificate you are obliged to be punished. Sham lawyers warrant severe punishment.

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 10:29 am

      Tyrone Corbin you are so right look out its coming again and this time its not going to be an easy back stabbing either. I feel sorry for Miss Mottley.

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    • Tyrone Corbin
      Tyrone Corbin September 12, 2017 at 10:34 am

      Bajans have short memory and she dealing with some good traitors in that party all of them glad to see this to promote themselves .They have one particular one always smirking and another always changing HATS she better watch her back.

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 10:45 am

      Mia getting move as leader of that party when ever election are call no doubt about that to much back stabbing in that party.

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    • Tyrone Corbin
      Tyrone Corbin September 12, 2017 at 10:49 am

      You are so right but the dangerous one of all he ain’t KEEPING nuh noise he simmering.

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  16. Greengiant September 12, 2017 at 7:50 am

    We should be asking the question. Why is Hinkson the only bird currently chirping in Roebuck Street? Has the older birds lost their chirp? Where is the chirp from the king in the cage? This whole fiasco is the perfect recipe for the men in black to take back control of the party. It started when the little red hen lost the chairmanship, so stay tuned for the grand conclusion.

    They are many of you who have already given your personal commitment to the lady in red as our next leader, but you will be disappointed when the most recent script is played out on our national stage. When the men in black want to block you, they will find a little crack and blow it wide open. Now someone from the inner circle with knowledge of the back door entry must have said something and with good reason. A medical officer, an engineer, a teacher, a pilot, or several other professionals would have been charged and probably jailed. I read of a similar situation of an architect in the U S A yesterday.

    It shows that years ago, certain families got special privileges while poorer people’s children had to work hard to qualify. This is still the case today, and don’t be fooled those who got it, sees nothing wrong with appointment by favor and will reinforce it if they get power. That applies to any of the ‘beneficiaries by favor’.
    We the people have to be guardians of our fate. Stop only seeing the B L P, D L P, U D P and other parties, pay attention to the systems historically at work, march to our parliament for the right purposes and not only when our section leaders say so. We need vibrant, active civic organizations in these critically revealing times.

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  17. Lorenzo September 12, 2017 at 7:54 am

    The usual suspects on here trying to stoke up a non issue CCC,Saga boy ,Jennifer etc,tell me how would this address the Economy or reduce Crime.give me a break,stuespe!A red Herring to distract people.

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 8:01 am

      cud dear Lorenzo do you not like truth and honesty. Come on man. I don’t think you are a denier.

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  18. Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 7:58 am

    @Greengiant – Has the older birds lost their chirp? Where is the chirp from the king in the cage?

    You said it – because dey in the cage. Heheheheheheee. Same thing in enemy of the state. Lesson – keep your nose clean or keep in crawler lane.

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  19. Charlie September 12, 2017 at 8:09 am

    Thompson had his and was proven to be ah crook this LEC matter was explained this is to distract the ppl from the 9 years of failure and poor performance of the economy, to iscredit Mia is to discredit Barrow at de same time , ah bare distraction from the real issues facing this nation

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  20. Christopher Hill
    Christopher Hill September 12, 2017 at 8:15 am

    Sinclair is not an economist, Lowe is not an environmentalist and Steurt is no leader. This whole thing is ridiculous just the DLP trying to take peoples mind off the real problem, and that is the economy, jobs, crime and crappy old outdated legislation.

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    • Petee Cumberbatch
      Petee Cumberbatch September 12, 2017 at 10:02 am

      Relevance to legal certificate?

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 10:36 am

      Christopher and all of them like Chris, Dennis and Frundel could get fire by the people. You cant fire Ms Mottley as an Attorney unless she break the code of conduct in the legal profession.

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  21. Deryck Grant
    Deryck Grant September 12, 2017 at 8:32 am

    Bunch of clowns

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  22. Ali Baba
    Ali Baba September 12, 2017 at 8:52 am

    JOSEPH RAN A GOVERNMENT, DID HE HOLD ANY DEGREES? NO!! YET HE FED ALL EGYPT & OTHERS. DID SOLOMON HOLD ANY DEGREES? NO!! AND HE RAN AH GOVERNMENT….YOU KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THESE MEN FEARED GOD…GOD GAVE THEM WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, UNDERSTANDING. LOOK AT DAVID & COMPANY. I’M CERTAIN MIA CAN RUN THIS COUNTRY BETTER THAN ALL AH DEM DUMMIES/MUMMIES INCOMPETENT *SS*OLES PUT TO GETHER.

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 9:23 am

      @Ali Baba – Them biblical men was under the holy system of their god. This people is under the system of their oppressor/serpent, this is why you need certificates and such. Remember the people of the book wanted Caesar to rule them.

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    • wayne September 12, 2017 at 11:25 am

      Did they lied to their constituents? Did they claim they were something ,they weren’t? did they misrepresent and therefore mislead? is that the character and criteria you look for in a leader, sounds like the portfolio of a ruler and power hungry dictator.

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      • hcalndre September 13, 2017 at 3:45 am

        I have said it before and I`ll say it again, Barbados is one big close knit friendly secret society. This person gets discarded by the voters after one term and is brought back put in a round hole for a second so as to secure a pension, another one is sent to China as a representative for Barbados among 1.3 billion people and 276 spoken languages, which of these languages Barbados` representative speaks or understand? all it boils down to is taxpayers` money wasted. This one is given the handle of ‘Sir,’ that one is made a Judge all because of their coterie.

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  23. Ali Baba
    Ali Baba September 12, 2017 at 8:55 am

    HINKSON WANNA NEED TO KEEP FOCUS, LET THE CREEPERS TALK THE CRAP AS PER USUAL…DEM MISSION IS TO DISTRACT, DIVERT, PEOPLE’S MIND FROM THE REAL ISSUES THAT STARING US IN OUR FACES’ LIKE IRMA.

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 10:39 am

      Hinkson let the pig out the bag now you have to ask if Hinkson himself loyal to seeing Mia lead as bim next PM.

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    • Ali Baba
      Ali Baba September 12, 2017 at 10:58 am

      FOR REAL JAVAN, HUMMMM DE HOGNOSE SNAKE MUSSE HAD AH WORD WID HE IN SECRET…I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY HE WOULD DO SUCH AH TING……WELL I’LL LOOK AN SEE IF THE FLOORING CHANGE SOON.

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  24. Ali Baba
    Ali Baba September 12, 2017 at 8:56 am

    HURRICANE IRMA)

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  25. Adrian Hinds September 12, 2017 at 9:24 am

    Did Hinkson really say … ““You will tell me that because Mia Mottley was born to be a lawyer and she is a Mottley she can’t be prime minister? he asked, adding “she ain’t ask to be born, and no one should ever be ashamed of who they born to.”

    Mia was born to be a lawyer???? well I guess she really doesn’t need a LLB, LEC, or BVC. Meanwhile in Canada

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/diploma-mills-marketplace-fake-degrees-1.4279513

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  26. Lorenzo September 12, 2017 at 9:36 am

    Jennifer nothing you say impresses me ,always with this race and class talk and clearly a defender of the current Government.Why do,nt you declare your hand?this is nothing to do with truth but a method of distraction of real serious issues of Crime and the Economy where are the solutions Jennifer from the elected Government?

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 9:48 am

      Lorenzo I keep things real and I hate forestation. My take would be to get the rid of both of them gangrenous legs, but that will not happen. This people is not ready for such. To much brain washing and little insight into reality.

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      • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 9:54 am

        I know that Mia/BLP coming to power working in your people favor, so you would behave like that poodle tie down in the corner of the yard. For me I could not care less. I can see who is being strangled and who the fetters are on. And no party can change any of it. Have a great day Lorenxo.

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  27. Tony Webster September 12, 2017 at 9:45 am

    Hmmm….reducing all this noise to its lowest common denominator ….what about the minimum qualifications for anyone to be legally elected as a representative of a constituency?
    1. Greed &/or
    2. Ambition &/or
    3. A mouth &/or
    4. A wllinness to conflate personal integrity, with collective wealth acquisition &/or
    5. Selfless desire to advance the development of this country, and “to protect the Constitution so help me God”
    Hmmm???

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    • Thunder September 12, 2017 at 2:05 pm

      Don’t worry Ms.Mottley some of them have 2 degrees and still can’t run this country,when God chose David to he king he was a Shepherd boy, yet he was chosen because he was a man after God’s own heart, some people get jobs because they are qualified, others get jobs because of God’s favour.
      Having qualifications does not guarantee you can get the job done,ignore the tantrums, focus on your people make plans to ease their burdens,and ask God to help you make the right decisions,do not take anything for granted,work hard, and what is for you,you shall receive.
      Always remember who God bless no one can curse, I am convinced dog eat some people’s shamel,just focus, please just focus!

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  28. Johnathan September 12, 2017 at 9:54 am

    The DLP got in some real cu$#s. Was Owen or Sandi Lawyers? What dos having a legal certificate got to do with being a geuinely caring highly intelligent respectful woman well qualified have to hold the office got do w ith it. Isnt it coincidental that nothing is said about the man who graduated wiyh her and practiced law under the same circumstances. Ignorant ,Denis Lowe started that on the directions of his grudefgeful minded leader who would have love to have gone to the London school of economics but his poor ass couldnt get there. Find something that will help to make people lives better to talk about scum bags

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  29. Milli Watt September 12, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Hinkson argued that there was no real breach to speak of………look is there a breach to the law YES OR NO.

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    • hcalndre September 13, 2017 at 3:55 am

      Check “Barbados Underground” and see the dishonest lawyers who have a Law degree and tell me where they would be practicing if they were in the US.

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  30. Donild Trimp September 12, 2017 at 10:15 am

    @ Jennifer –
    As much as I enjoy your revelatory approach to the issues discussed here on a daily basis, I have to disagree with you on this one.

    You are way too smart to waste your time on this foolishness.

    Schedule 2 to the Legal Profession Act applies to the good lady where concerns are raised about a legal certificate to practice law in Barbados.

    She was not required at the time to do any prescribed course of study at a law School in the region, hence there was no need for a legal certificate. With the changing regulations, she was “Grandfathered” in.

    Those members of the DLP who are pursuing this nonsense are simply making asses of themselves.

    While at it, why not look at some of the questionable “MASTERS and “DOCTORAL” degrees some of these pretenders are displaying on their walls !!!!!!!!!!!

    I have stated here before that the DLP will win the upcoming elections if they stick to the programs they are advocating but if they continue to pursue this idiotic nonsense of a legal certificate when they very well know it was not a requirement at the time, most right thinking Barbadians will see them as clutching at straws and give them the boot.

    Mr.PM, if your intention is to win the upcoming elections, this non-issue won’t do it for you.

    Get real DLP.

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 10:33 am

      @Donild – True – On a more serious note. This is one of my days of feeling bored, nothing interesting on here, so talk some ssshhhh. In all honesty we should know by now that this is nothing more than just political SPIN. This people is just falling for the typical okedoke. Being used by both the house Negroes and the planter class alike. Oh and yes the DLP will get back in power, they don’t even need to re-dig any of this certificate saga. All systems in Bim are f%$^ up anyway and needs a reality check. I doubt anyone of these people in parliament can be labelled as clean. Who ain’t in back pocket, in front pocket.

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    • Milli Watt September 12, 2017 at 1:35 pm

      @ Donald……..2. Subject to these Rules, a person is qualified for admission to practice law who has complied with the provisions of and obtained the qualifications specified in Appendix 1, 2 or 3. From reading the aforementioned I suspect Mottley qualifies under 2 -3. I believes that this puts the issue to rest……………UNLESS she short on 2 or 3. AG don’t have to work that hard now, then again when he EVER work hard.

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      • hcalndre September 13, 2017 at 4:04 am

        Did Errol Barrow did something to make barristers qualified to practice in the courts? I`m not sure what he did.

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  31. Stell Alleyne
    Stell Alleyne September 12, 2017 at 10:18 am

    I love it…this is a beautiful submission… seriously this is not the opposition leader that said to the ppl of Barbados that the DLP have dishonest ppl leading the country…well well…this is no POLITICAL sidetrack… this is just the beginning of many truth that need exposing…the ppl of this country should know exactly what they are asking for to lead this country…let the truth roll so the ppl will know how very equipt you are in making Barbados beautiful again MIA… “the gift of gab” just thinking if this power should be given to you…how much more FRAUDULENT ACTS WILL BE COVER UP!

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 12:00 pm

      @Stell – All respect sis. Brilliant. Your comment is exactly what this spin is suppose to do in this double or triple whammy situation. Question credibility?????? But believe you me, this fiasco will AMOUNT TO NOTHING, it is intended to do so. It really does not matter whether she has certificates or not.
      Barbados is laden in too many irregularities, pretty birds and translucency especially for certain people. Based on your statement if not Mia, then WHO?? Keep watching.

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    • hcalndre September 13, 2017 at 4:11 am

      @ Stell Alleyne; what about honest “16” that ran the country off its wheels in 9 years and is asking to be returned again. Well, well, that will be the night.

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  32. Adrian Allison
    Adrian Allison September 12, 2017 at 10:22 am

    What Dennis Lowe needs to do is stop worrying about Ms Mottley’s certifications and put more thought into the public perceptions of nefarious activities concerning illicit funds that cannot be explained satisfactorily to them.
    We the citizens need to be assured that if there is any hint or accusations of malfeasance that the air should be cleared once and all so we can make informed decisions at the polls
    This administration needs to stop grasping at straws now that they have realized that it’s abundantly clear that power is slipping from their grasp
    This is just another futile attempt to create smokescreens to have the public distracted from the state of the economy and the incompetence that we as a country has had to endure for the past nine years.

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 10:41 am

      Adrian, Hinkson need to keep his big mouth shut.

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    • Adrian Allison
      Adrian Allison September 12, 2017 at 10:49 am

      Maybe he should too but we all know that this is a smokescreen in an effort to distract from the real issues.

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    • Javan Carmichael
      Javan Carmichael September 12, 2017 at 11:22 am

      Well he playing right into their hands.

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  33. Lee R September 12, 2017 at 11:01 am

    Well said @Lorenzo, it is a red herring and we did went through this on the floor of parliament. We have way bigger issues facing this country. Come on ppl stay focus.

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  34. Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 11:15 am

    @Carson C Cadogan – What do you think will be the likely outcome of all of this trojan horse/s fiasco???? If there is one.

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  35. Joy Waldron
    Joy Waldron September 12, 2017 at 11:19 am

    Smhhh some ppl just don’t know when keep mouth close… hmmm

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  36. wayne September 12, 2017 at 11:27 am

    Did they lied to their constituents? Did they claim they were something ,they weren’t? did they misrepresent and therefore mislead? is that the character and criteria you look for in a leader, sounds like the portfolio of a ruler and power hungry dictator.

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  37. Lorenzo September 12, 2017 at 11:30 am

    Jennifer this is why I dismiss you ,on the one hand you are saying it is an issue and now you are agreeing with Donald Trump that it is a non issue.Which is it Jennifer?Next you make a statement saying the DLP will win the next Election,really based on what Jennifer or have you looked into your crystal ball…you are truly amazing person with this idea of great self importance.Remember you like me only have one vote.

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 11:42 am

      @Lorenzo – Hahahahaha – Now you can see that I am just having fun and don’t really F$%^&ing care. All of them politicians only work for one set of people and stroke the others with trinkets. And you know who them is.

      @Wayne – name one politician who don’t have all the items on your stated criteria.

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  38. Boyce Jr Angus
    Boyce Jr Angus September 12, 2017 at 11:44 am

    Fraundel vex ,he got a certificate& can’t name a case he win…lol…..incompetent lawyer,incompetent leader……we might be in luck that she ain’t got nun cause who got ain’t na damn use ta we…..#miaforpm

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  39. Kym Reigns
    Kym Reigns September 12, 2017 at 11:57 am

    Was a LEC required at the time she was called to the Bar? How about those who were called before her time? How was it then? Asking for myself!

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    • Boyce Jr Angus
      Boyce Jr Angus September 12, 2017 at 3:18 pm

      Now that’s the question that ppl should be asking cause I don’t feel DAT even if yah family is big ups yah would be able ta pull off practicing without a certification is some is required

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  40. Angela Thompson Branch
    Angela Thompson Branch September 12, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Please saying things like this where will it get you guys..I am sick of politics.

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  41. Lorenzo September 12, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    Jennifer you call it having fun now that I have called you out on your many contradictions and flip flopping.You are just another annoying Dem looking to diastract people but it won,t work with me or sensible Bajans who can see through all the fluff you bring to all these topics.

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  42. Ingrid Bullen
    Ingrid Bullen September 12, 2017 at 12:37 pm

    Mr Hinkson,With all due respect, don’t get involve with this “red herring”

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  43. Phoenix Sevyn
    Phoenix Sevyn September 12, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Donald Trump doesn’t even have a brain. So Mia good!

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  44. Cuthbert Lucas
    Cuthbert Lucas September 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    Bare red herring. Some of those that have must not keep their clients assets.will a legal certificate help

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  45. Sylvan Greenidge
    Sylvan Greenidge September 12, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    We must be careful about the monsters we create for they can devour you later in life. Secondly a society that has lost it’s moral and ethical moorings is a society is crisis. The issue of

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  46. Chris Barnett
    Chris Barnett September 12, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    = CAN YOU ALL STOP PLAY THE A** with BARBADOS and hurry up and place MIA MOTTLEY AS PM PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE…..AH BEGGGING WANNA NOW AH BEGGGGGINGGGG……………………GAD KNOW I BEGGING !

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  47. Ali Baba
    Ali Baba September 12, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    WHAT U SHOULD BE ASKING THE ROTTEN DLP GOVERNMENT IS: HOW COME THEY HAVE CROWN LAND(S) TO GIVE WAY TO THE ELITE(S), AND DON’T HAVE LAND FOR AGRICULTURE….I WENT TO FAIRY VALLEY AGRICULTURAL STATION ASK FOR A FORM TO FILL OUT, ONLY TO BE TOLD GOVERNMENT HAVE NO LAND….AN YET LAND IS IDLE EVERY WHERE.

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  48. gsmiley September 12, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Jennifer it is a certificate to practice. not about her qualifications

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    • Jennifer September 12, 2017 at 5:12 pm

      Fair enough gs, but nothing will happen out of this. It is Barbados.

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  49. David Hall September 12, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    Everyone knows that this is a load of crap. If indeed Ms Mottley has broken the law; the government needed to prosecute her, and if it has not done so in the last 9 years what is it crying about now. This is nothing but Lowdown dirty Tricks by an inept wayward government.

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  50. Sylvan Greenidge
    Sylvan Greenidge September 12, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    The question is, what kind of society do we want to leave for our children? Do we want our children to live in society where the rule of law is respected and upheld by it’s citizenry and where core values are still taught in homes and the wider society – church and school. Let me state from the outset that the holder of a LEC does not qualify them nor disqualify them from holding high public ofice. To argue otherwise would be to deny the countless men and women who built Barbados, many of them without tertiary education or basic qualification. But that is not the issue and has never been the issue. Is there an ethical issue here? Is there a question to be ask about the professional conduct of our public officers? If we cannot answer in the affirmative to these two fundamental questions then how are we going to deal with the country’s rising crime situation. Ordinary and white-colour crime are two of the most devastating features of a decaying society. They prohibit economic growth and destroy social life. Barbados will be best served if this matter could be taken out of the realm of emotion and be fully investigated and the rule of law applied.

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  51. michael September 12, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    The Dlp is trying they best to win the next elections,but it is a waste of time the people of Barbados done see tru you all already,you have been telling the people of this country lies from 2008 to the present, it is time to go now.

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  52. Carson C Cadogan September 12, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Barbados is waiting for Mia to present her Legal credentials to the House and make them documents of the House as she was challenged to by the Hon. Dennis Lowe.

    All she has to do is to go to her office and take down her Law certificate and LLB from the wall and drive down to Parliament a Tuesday morning and present them.

    what could be easier?

    On the other hand if she does not have any, it will be cat piss and pepper. She being a Queens counsel and all. Her Majesty the Queen of the Commonwealth, of which Barbados is a part, would be keen to know how she could be a Queens counsel without the necessary qualifications.

    This has the potential to create a hurricane in Judicial circles through out Barbados and the Caribbean.

    Jurisprudence in Barbados will be turned on its head.

    But note that I said that if she cant produce any relevant and necessary qualifications.

    David Thompson had his Law certificate and his LLB.
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  53. Carson C Cadogan September 12, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    This is a serious legal matter.

    The individual is a QUEEN’S COUNSEL(QC).

    “A QC’s status means they generally charge higher fees than ordinary barristers, and always have another barrister as an assistant. This assistant is called a “junior” even if the junior has been a lawyer longer than the “silk”.”

    This matter needs to be looked at in a Court of Law, and a legal decision handed down. Don’t mind Hinkson talking foolishness.

    Another thing how is that all the “Lawyers” who don’t have Law certificates are Barbados Labour Party operatives?

    What about a LLB? Does she have a LLB?

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  54. Kevin September 12, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    I hate to hear the raucous unmmanerly sounding Hinkson. The BLP has definitely found their Estwick.

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  55. hcalndre September 12, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    Hi Anton; what is the big thing about a law degree in Barbados that the DLP so big on? Lawyers in Barbados are about a dime a dozen, what that tells you? that`s why when they get a job and they know the person have some cash and if they`re living overseas they take them to the cleaners. They`re about 200 lawyers in Barbados so they become hustlers like the ZR van drivers, more lawyers than work and every body wants to be an attorney as if they`re no other professions.

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  56. Sunshine Sunny Shine September 13, 2017 at 1:39 am

    Show me any other profession where you can work in it without the prerequisite qualifications If she does not have the qualification to practice law, who the hell permitted her to practice it? The Mottley name, a few big ups`? The DLP is wicked to decide to raise this issue at this stage, knowing they knew about this for years. As far as I am concerned, if there was no disapproval until now then she should be allowed to continue. You condoned it, so there can be no longer any grounds for condemning it. The DLP is nefarious and nasty.

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    • hcalndre September 13, 2017 at 4:27 am

      A law degree is Barbados is a free pass to hold onto people`s property and money.

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    • Carson C Cadogan September 13, 2017 at 9:24 am

      SUNSHINE SUNNY SHINE IDIOT

      Let me see if I got this right using your “logic’:

      A man kills another man or woman thirty years ago, he walks around Barbados free as a bird for the last thirty years. Barbados Today newspaper in 2017 highlights the fact that this particular man is murderer. Using your “logic”, the fact that he has remained free for the last thirty years means that he should not be brought to justice for his dastardly crime. Just leave him alone!!!!

      A “”Doctor”” practises “”medicine”” for the last thirty years. Barbados Today newspaper in 2017 highlights the fact that this “”Doctor”” has no medical qualifications to practise “”medicine””. But over the last thirty years he has treated patients, give them medications, injections and whatever else a Doctor does. Using your “”logic”” then he should be allowed to continue his “”medical practice” “instead of being dragged before a Court of Law and dealt with. Just leave him alone!!!!!

      The Laws on our books are there to protect society and they must not be broken or they will break you.

      The police have charged 5 men for the murder of British National, Steven Weare. This is an example of people breaking the law and now they have to face the consequences. This is true for all Laws. Lawyers operate under their own Act and if it is broken then they are consequences to face, not for the breach of the Law to be swept under the carpet saying among other things, “”……that there was no real breach to speak of,”””.

      BTW, one of those arrested for the Murder of Weare is a big time Barbados Labour Party supporter. Sunil.

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      • Sunshine Sunny Shine September 16, 2017 at 8:08 am

        BE happy that the partisan online news that is BARBADOS TODAY, refuse my comment. It was fitting to a lapdog like you.

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  57. Duke September 13, 2017 at 2:08 am

    Wow!! How many more ppl in barbados could get away with something like this….it has nothing to do with her becoming the nxt pm…but at the same time how much of us would be able to get away with some thing like this….it is ok to like a person or a party…. but at the same time right is right ,wrong is wrong…they are so many poor ppl out there that had to wrk hard to become what they have become…why should miss mottley be any diffirent…i could nt gt away with it,some of u guys out there that is saying nothing is wrong with could nt gt away with it…if it was one of the dlp members do u guys think for one sec miss mottley would have let it slide..hell no..i’m sick to see that one set of rules out there for one set of ppl and another set of rules for another set..it cant be fair…and shame on all of u that dont see anything wrong with it….we will never ever be any better around here…third world country that is what we are!!

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  58. Lorenzo September 14, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    Duke ,CCc,and Slyvan Greenidge the three of you all serious?Bajans all over struggling to pay bills,get food to eat and you are on here talking about morality of the haves and the have nots.how is this going to help them to survive.thisis a desperate polictical strategy to distract people attention from the Economy and Crime where Government has failed big time ,so do not come here talking about no classism and a bunch of rubbish,following on on the PM statement about Ms Mottley because the AG was to investigate Ms Mottley nearly two years now and report back to Parliament what happened to that report?This is a red herring plain and simple.

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  59. Big chief September 17, 2017 at 9:19 am

    I’m very to read some of these Positive comments from snart bajans. Seems to me that some of our bajan brothers and sisters have wake up and shake off the plantationThinking mentality. Not even religion cant catch bahan now. The internet is the world biggest free college. The local brain dead self serving politicians can only fool the electorate low class people of barbados. But come this election season bajans will shake the earth with change. Get rid of the old guard and lets rebuild my home country. I have reregister the last time i was home just to vote in my country’s up coming election. Stay strong barbados change is coming.

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  60. Greengiant September 17, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    Why are many of you being so emotional about this issue of if the lady has a law degree, legal certificate, if she was born to be a lawyer, born to lead or whatever?

    We in Barbados know that some people can run the country’s affairs and others can’t. (Fact)

    We believe that Ms. Mottley can run the country. (Fact)

    We now have to give her a try and see if she succeeds. (Fact)

    We now know she doesn’t have the paper work to be practicing law locally. (Ask Hinkson)

    Are we as a nation in a position to be trying leaders for 5 years?
    Answer. (No)

    So do we return to Barrow, Adams, Sandiford or Arthur? They have lead before and we know about them.

    Now we only know the B L P and D L P as political parties who have lead this country.

    We also know that their policies collectively have brought us to where we are today.(Fact)
    There is no indication that under any current leaders of these two parties there will be a change in policy or ideology. (Fact)

    We as a nation need serious policy, and ideological changes to our political landscape and systems of governance. (Fact)

    We cannot entrust the two leading parties to effect these
    changes. (Fact)

    Therefore we need a totally new party to govern this country or a government with representation from all parties to guarantee the needed changes. (Fact)

    That’s how easy it is to remove the emotions, party preferences, name calling, attempted character assassinations and other efforts that will not rescue this rock economically.

    Catch you all later.

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