We ignored gun violence – Rev’d Sandiford

Anglican Priest Reverend Hugh Sandiford today blasted Governments for being part of the move away from Christianity, the absence of which, along with inaction of society, he blamed for the current state of gun violence in Barbados.

Delivering the sermon at the St Matthias Anglican Church where members of the  Barbados Defence Force attended a service to mark its 38th anniversary, Sandiford said that for a long time Christianity has been losing its influence on the island.

But, addressing an audience that included Prime Minister Freundel Stuart, he added that this declining influence was hastened by the removal of biblical names of schools over the past two decades.

In our nation, this has been evident for quite some time, but during this 20-year period we witnessed the renaming of several schools,” he said.

“This attempt to raise our national consciousness  also  simultaneously removed reminders of Christianity from the psyche of our nation, thereby further weakening its influence.”

Rev’d Sandiford themed his sermon on the benefits of joint or community action borrowing terminology from the Bible, “two are better than one”, and focused on what he saw as society’s mistakes of the past 20 years.

While noting that, “in recent times there’ve been too many shootings in our beloved Barbados”, he said, “if we reflect on Barbados you would realize that we heard the term crime and violence being used approximately 20 years ago”.

“Many of us did not take it seriously then . . . We sat and did nothing 20 years ago . . . We’ve brought our pigs to fine market.”

He said that while crime and violence had begun raising to a significant position in society, “simultaneously other things were happening socially which contributed to where we are today”.

According to the Reverend’s recollection, at the same time that there began talk of men in crisis, male and female gender-specific organizations were, “continuously taking pot shots at each other instead of coming together and working towards a solution”.

“While they were poking fun at each other we noticed a new face appeared on the bloc liming, and that face is feminine. Our young ladies started to frequent the blocs as well.”

He said that while girls began joining boys in these social groupings there was the take off of the technological era.

“Everything both good and bad became available and was just one click away, it was in this culture that the [millennials] . . . that they were born and were raised as a part of this ‘I’ culture,” he said and spoke of the emerging self-centeredness, “which is the same mentality of our prevailing culture. There is limited if any regard at all for others”.

He said that the solution to the gun violence and deaths currently affecting Barbados lay in the people, and not in seeking to snuff out the symptom of social problems instead of the cause.

“Our appeal to meet force with force will not solve the problem. It might win the battle, but the war can only be won if we as a people, as citizens of Barbados stand together and correct this systemic flaw.

“All of us have roles to play if we are to overcome this. We can no longer simply cower and hide and hope that something brings it to an end.

“We must use our influence as church, as families, as communities.”

Rev’d Sandiford pointed out that the gun-related violence and deaths are not caused by the overwhelming majority of Barbadians, and urged that the superior numbers of law abiding persons must, “use our spheres of influence because these same perpetrators are our children. They live within our communities. It starts with each and every one of us”.

“We can no longer sit and do nothing. “Together we stand, but divided, this nation, this paradise we call home will fall. “Two are better than one. Let us stand together and let us make the next 50 years even more glorious that the first 50,” he added.

Acting Governor General, Sir Phillip Greaves (L); Prime Minister Freundel Stuart (third left); Chief Justice, Sir Marston Gibson (fourth left); and BDF Chief of Staff, Glyne Grannum (fifth left), listen to Rev’d Sandiford’s sermon.

57 Responses to We ignored gun violence – Rev’d Sandiford

  1. Michael Crichlow
    Michael Crichlow August 13, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    Stupse!! barefoot profiteering Prophets

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  2. John JT Titheridge
    John JT Titheridge August 13, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    I don’t think it’s anything to do with religion

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  3. Kaiser Sose
    Kaiser Sose August 13, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    I could not agree more and the clergy bears its lart in the violence cabal, where is your pilgrimage to black rock to talk to the wayward young men.
    Sorry father but you get nonloints here do some thing get all the clergy on Bim to respond and be in the communities offering counsel and finding jobs for the disenfranchised you.
    Headlines are great but doing is better
    Namste.

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  4. Angus Benn
    Angus Benn August 13, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    The people were warned in 2013 but they didn’t listened. They put back in a bunch of ignorant politicians who don’t understand how to manage a country. They just kay about them self and they always talking foolishness.

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  5. Angus Benn
    Angus Benn August 13, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    This government don’t have the solutions at the moment how to deal with GUN crime. Right now a lot of people worried if they will get shoot by STRAY bullets. I want the AG to tell us HOW many people get shoot for the year and also HOW MUCH unsolved murder for the year.

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  6. Kaiser Sose
    Kaiser Sose August 13, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    VOTE FOR ME THE NEW PROGRESSIVE REFORM PARTY
    KAISER SOSE.
    I FROMALLY ANNOUCE MY CANDIDACY.
    ANY one interested in a new way join me.
    Im looking for forward thinking progressive acolytes to take our island back.

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    • Angus Benn
      Angus Benn August 13, 2017 at 7:03 pm

      THE PROGRESS PARTY HAS THE SOLUTION.THEY MIGHT MAKE BARBADOS COME LIKE IRAQ.

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    • Kaiser Sose
      Kaiser Sose August 13, 2017 at 7:27 pm

      No sir my platform is based on bring other cash cow business, to the island i have #3 and getting business entities to move to bim.
      1. Criminal justice reform
      35 yr mandatory sentence for using pocessing and firing a gun
      2. 35byrs for thier friends who were with them as accesories to aggravated assault before and after the fact.
      3. Hanging for murder by guns no exceptions.
      4. Leagalize marijusna to be able to pocess up to an kunce of canibis with out prosecution, provided you get a marijuana card from the government at a cost of 500 bajan dollars.
      5.Medical marijuana for the cancer glucoma and other ailments thus getting away from prescription drugs.
      6. Licensing natutsl healers.
      7. House arrest for certain crimes like domestic violence.
      A ankle bracelet to be placed on your ankle to make sure you cannot go more than 25 feet from your front and back door.
      A $100 a month for this program.
      8. Refrorm the government retirement system,
      20 yr mandatory retirement for all givernment workers, thus making it easier for young people to get jobs.
      9. Tax the rich
      Implement a millionares tax and raise the tax burden for those making 75k and above.
      Cap the pay of all ministers T 50k and all parish reps at 45k.
      10. Make it so all magistrates are elected on a 4yr term not oppointed thst way the people have a say and no nepotism or qid pro quo is advanced any more.
      11.Raise teacher pay by 2k annualy.
      12. Have an anti gang unit commissioned.
      13. Have gang injunctions on all gangs and known gang members where they cannot hang around each other , if caught given 2yr mandatiry hard labor sentences 1st offence any other offense 5yr mandatory hard labor sentence.
      24. I will donate sll of my salary if elected to funding scholarships to SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY IN BATON ROUGE LOUSISANA USA.
      Thats just a few of our platform issues.
      Does thatsound like SYRIA TO YOU.
      QUESTION what political party has pit forth a comprehensive plan like this .
      I await your response ANGUS BEEN sir. And i am not aone of thise sycophants that beholding to special interest or the island troglodyte social, and economic elites, i am beyond being corrupted.

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  7. Huey Newton
    Huey Newton August 13, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    They took God out. Mottley wanted Values. They changed school names and mocked crime and violence warnings. Women began openly looking and acting like men. Men were told learn to take a horn.
    Women on blocks smoking with kids in tow. Men too. The Rev is on point. Stupid Souse and Crutchlow can see no further than their red shirts.

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    • Michael Crichlow
      Michael Crichlow August 13, 2017 at 7:07 pm

      Huey Newton oh boy ….tell me son !Would you kindly reveal your true identity if your joy of provocateur has been established raise up Hell boy he he i smell a government TROLL

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  8. Lora-Ann C. Franklin
    Lora-Ann C. Franklin August 13, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    Stupse, another one who still sleeping

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    • Huey Newton
      Huey Newton August 13, 2017 at 7:05 pm

      You sleep when you pollute Rastafari. Fyah!

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  9. Huey Newton
    Huey Newton August 13, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    You want the church speak. It speaking. Listen and burn.

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  10. Edwin Leo
    Edwin Leo August 13, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    I remember when David Thompson talked about it he was mocked by the BLP.

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  11. Alex Alleyne August 13, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    “BLASTED GOVERNMENT FOR BEING PART OF THE MOVE AWAY FROM CHRISTIANITY”.
    It’s “Christianity” that brought us to this point. BLACK people must become “spiritual” and forget the “religion”.
    All 4 corners of the earth , religion is the main cause of fighting and kill for land.
    DAVID THOMPSON warned of the “CRIME AND VIOLENCE” but things were good back then so the “powers that be” just laugh.
    NOW IT’S TEAR’S , TEARS , TEARS’

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    • Jennifer August 13, 2017 at 7:47 pm

      Well said Alex.

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  12. Elridge Dixon
    Elridge Dixon August 13, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    An insightful and truthful sermon from Rev. Sandiford. No criticisms from me. Here are my solutions. Our society, despite the recent introduction of other religions, has been built on Christianity; the basis of which is the Ten Commandments on which Western Law is built. If this along with other social and moral lessons are not taught, the breakdown we are seeing will continue. Simply put, if you cannot appreciate that man did not create life and so should not take it and persons do not see the importance of ” Thou shalt not kill ” our efforts will be in vain. We need to return to basics.

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    • Jennifer August 13, 2017 at 7:58 pm

      @Elridge – It will take more than that to deal with this situation.

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    • Epaphras D. Williams
      Epaphras D. Williams August 14, 2017 at 5:57 am

      Well said

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    • Elridge Dixon
      Elridge Dixon August 14, 2017 at 6:57 am

      Thank you, Epaphras.

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    • Earl Lashley
      Earl Lashley August 14, 2017 at 4:33 pm

      On Christianity and a Bible that says slaves should obey their masters and the woman should subjugate herself to the man.

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    • Elridge Dixon
      Elridge Dixon August 14, 2017 at 4:38 pm

      Earl Lashley, ignorance is folly. I will not live my life in the past. I prefer to proffer positive solutions for present day problems. The degree of negativity pervading our society is becoming a millstone around our necks.

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  13. Jennifer August 13, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    Over the years this system has built a ne$t upon the mount of the people. The great grannies carried in their children, then those children carried in their children etc and for many generations sat in those monuments learning absolutely nothing about THEIR god but the god of another nation. So this $ystem is actually is a contributory to all of the said gun violence. Be honest now.

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  14. Cheryl Alleyne-Brooks
    Cheryl Alleyne-Brooks August 13, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    The government take bibicals names off of school. All of that is to help blame for gun violence. Lawd what am I reading, wunna is so lost.Find all kind of excuses and don’t come together with some solutions. I really don’t believe this, a lot of wunna lost. No disrespect.

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  15. Cheryl Alleyne-Brooks
    Cheryl Alleyne-Brooks August 13, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    Do some of you all come out of the church and go in the neighborhoods and try to help some of the young people.

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  16. Alex Alleyne August 13, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    Missing from the photo is the AG, “weh he deh”.

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  17. Raymond Brathwaite
    Raymond Brathwaite August 13, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    Well if the Reverend is complaining then I’m not the only one that Jesus ain’t talking to lol…why he can’t be like Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and solve the problem by praying??? False prophets!!! Elijah, Elisha and Samuel always got solutions from God…my opinion is that the Reverend be a man and confess that he don’t have conversations with God and that Jesus is a fairytale​I just like Peter pan.

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  18. Wayne Norville
    Wayne Norville August 13, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    When you hear something going on outside and you go and close your window later when the noise end up on your doorstep don’t pretend you don’t know how it got there

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  19. Saga Boy August 13, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    What exactly has the goodly or godly rev done to reduce the incidence of gun violence? What is it he is planning to do to arrest this trend? Tired of all the blame. Perhaps he should look at his sermons and ask why is it that people no longer come to his church as much as they did?

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  20. Advocate August 13, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    Alex: you say DAVID THOMPSON warned of the “CRIME AND VIOLENCE” but was ignored. Well, the DLP been in power how many years? Have they done anything? I guess they ignored Thompson too!

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  21. E Jerome Davis
    E Jerome Davis August 14, 2017 at 12:15 am

    Where is the voice of your Bishop?

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  22. ch August 14, 2017 at 2:11 am

    This is one of the best and most intelligent responses to recent events so far and the Reverend Hugh Sandiford has identified and connected many complex factors that have caused the social breakdown. And he spoke the truth.
    But it will float above several heads because we no longer train our minds to think. And as a culture we have become weak and debased and we resent the truth about ourselves rather than change it to be better.

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  23. jrsmith August 14, 2017 at 4:40 am

    Our barbados is control ,our barbados the people is in (lock down)
    too scared , frighten to speak ………..Our politicians have driven our people to crime , because its good for them all in they favour.

    Our country road fatalities is our black people , the shooting the bullets only hit black people and the fatalities our black people , (DODDS) our prison is brimming over with whom ,our black people … Black lives dont really matter ,, how many black lifes its going to take , hundreds , thousands , millions before the government or god do something …. …. I would think we need a character from harry potter to put things right in barbados………
    My take the day one white person gets injured by a stray bullet all hell is going to break loose by the government , we will see a different picture………………………………………………….

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  24. Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 5:24 am

    From the moment your OPPRESSORS RELIGION was BEATEN into this people, is when they started to go down the hill of no return. Now let us get some clarity. For all church goers with UNDERSTANDING of the scriptures. What is the 4th commandment???????? Because people like to quote the commandments.

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    • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 5:28 am

      Remember, if you can’t understand minor THINGS you will NOT be able to understand the Major.

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      • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 5:48 am

        You can use the Gregorian calendar to help you out. And if you say it does not matter, then you have just thrown that baby out with the bath water.

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  25. Epaphras D. Williams
    Epaphras D. Williams August 14, 2017 at 6:15 am

    Christianity became the voice of the government and not the voice/virtue of God. So we found boys and girls who didn’t trust the government and hence couldn’t trust the church. I like the message to some extent but the problem is the church.. light did not shine into the darkness. Still is not shining in the darkness. Jesus said a city on a hill cannot be hid. Over 700 churches and no unity. No vision, still depending on government to fund things like pensions, maternity leave, unemployment benefits, run schools, provide social services when you have the resources and the potential to step up and be counted as a force for good.

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  26. Rawle Spooner
    Rawle Spooner August 14, 2017 at 8:50 am

    He is right about one thing and that is previous governments ignore the warning signs now chickens are coming home to roost politicians huffing and puffing hot air.But this is bigger than any government or church it’s Barbados as a country that has the most to lose.

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  27. Donild Trimp August 14, 2017 at 9:02 am

    I have a solution to all the nonsense in Barbados.

    Declare a state of emergency the next time this lawless indiscriminate shooting in public occurs.

    Then start the deportation pf all the illegal Jamaicans, Vincentians, Guyanese and St.Lucians from Barbados.

    Everyone knows how the guns and ammunition are entering Barbados. Time to call a spade a spade.

    Knock down the doors of those wannabe copy gangsters in The Farm, Black Rock, New Orleans, Westbury, The Pine.

    Put some eyes in St.Lawrence gap and pick up the drug pushers. They will lead you to the suppliers.

    If you really want the big fish, don’t look in no poor rakey district or village, think uppity neighborhoods. This is no secret, so to the authorities, stop pretending you don’t know.

    Finally, tell the custom officers at the airport to focus some attention on the Caucasian visitor entering Barbados and stop stereotyping every black person as a drug pusher.

    The truth hurts but it must be told and the hypocrisy exposed if Barbados is to return to some sense of normalcy.

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  28. Ossie Moore August 14, 2017 at 10:48 am

    To Elridge Dixon : Not bad Ellie . . . for a boy that went to Colridge and PARRY , sang in the St.John the Baptist church choir and was a member of the CLB.

    . .. BUT ! social and moral lessons can be taught without Christianity .

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  29. Hewers of wood August 14, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Christianity is an ancient WMD.

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  30. Sherlene Phillips
    Sherlene Phillips August 14, 2017 at 11:13 am

    It has everything to do with Christianity. Children learn alot about love, forgivess, kindness, not lying, not stealing, not killing etc in the church. There is a link between the escalation of crime and the decrease in the number of people that go to church. If you are in a church praising God you dont have time for block or guns. People who have went to jail some of them turned their life around through Christ. If we follow the bible and dont have sex before marriage and dont cheat on your spouse, how many people would have avoided unwanted pregnancy and abortion, how many would have avoided HIV.So many parents that children find themself in trouble tell me….I shoukd have sent him to church. Right now alot of poverty is in single parent household and the cause is sexual immorality…people finish school early and had to scrape by working nuff hours etc..no time yo train the children, many parents dont even know how to train themself..We really need Christ! Without Christ there is crisis…

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    • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      @Sherlene – I need you to answer me two questions – All of what you have said is true so…….. which church do you go to which teaches what you have highlighted?? Why do you think there is a decline in the number of people going to churches??

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  31. Olutoye Walrond
    Olutoye Walrond August 14, 2017 at 11:14 am

    The removal of biblical names of schools is partly to blame for the current crisis??? Are these guys feet firmly on terra firma or are they floating somewhere in the clouds? Sir, this social problem has nothing to do with the decline of Christianity. People are free to believe or not to believe in your notion of spirituality. Many of the thugs wielding guns today were indoctrinated with Christian religion in schools. Get real.

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    • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      @Olutoye – Well said. And many of the girls getting abortions actually was raised up in churches. Dragged in by their gran. Even many divorce cases among this people is by said church goers. Why is is that other races who is not half as christian believing as this people gets high above this people in every totem pole and this people still at the bottom wandering and killing etc. Many Christians will tell you that going and gyrating half naked is godly. Even eating souse is accepted by god as god said eat everything, making god double minded. The reasons why this people is so far out to sea is because their identity is lost and there is no connection to how they fit in with the said bible.

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  32. Ossie Moore August 14, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Listen Donild Trump , back in the late 80’s a WHITE male drug / gun runner from Stuart ,Florida was caught by the Stuart Sheriff Dept. doing his trade.

    In order to receive a lighter sentence and to save his ass from life in prison the Sheriff of Stuart County told him to go and spill his guts to to state of Florida and the USA about how bad it is to do drugs ,guns the usual bundle of malarky etc. ( this made the Sheriff looked really good because he had just caught a really big fish ).

    Anyhow here is what the drug / gun dealer said to the media in his own words.

    ” yes sir , my drop off and distribution point for taking drugs etc into the Caribbean was Barbados. All I had to do was get in contact with my sources in Barbados when I was about to do my runs and I was given a free pass into the island without any hassles at all .”

    So as you can see Donild , you are very right , because the Customs custom officers at the airport and the seaport were and to this very day are not focusing some attention on the Caucasian visitor ( drug / gun dealers ) entering Barbados . The black customs and black Immigration idiots with 3, 4 and 5 CXC’s to their names are up to this very day still stopping and stereotyping every black person as a drug pusher.

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    • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 11:24 am

      @Ossie – And why do you think that is??????

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  33. Ossie Moore August 14, 2017 at 11:26 am

    . . . . one more thing . you take a canon printer or a 15 inch flat screen TV into Barbados the’ll hassle the hell outa you at customs , yet still a container loaded with AR-15’s can get through problem free.

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  34. Ossie Moore August 14, 2017 at 11:28 am

    What do you think Jenny ? . . . we both have the answers.

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  35. Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    Did you know that the rabbit is family to the mouse and that the lobster performs a similar function as the cockroach. And that pigs and rabbits both carry the tape worm. Now rabbits burrow holes which can run for miles with many passages, and only he knows the route. This people have rabbit syndrome.

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    • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      You see Ossie the riddle cannot be solved with an obstinate mindset. You must want to be set free. The thing is that we can talk all year about drugs and guns and laws but nothing will change. Until we realize that this rabbit hole is very deep with multiple narrow passages in which this people is trapped, we ain’t going no where in any time soon. Those customs officers will behave like that because the white race have built up a number of pedestals which cannot be broken down. Watch on here how when you try to attack their behaviors both past and present there will come ONE OF THEM talking about people being racist instead of being honest. When this said racist conundrum they have created. This people have been trained/bred on self hate and low self esteem and to see the white race as gods (would you challenge your god???), hence white Jesus. They have been trained not to oppose their master or question him in any form or fashion. Hence the same display seen at that last NSLR meeting. Remember we are emancipated now. This is why these said people will get away with every crime in the book as they have always done in the past. Even BLACK police world wide will talk with white people different. I have come in on many occasions at the airport and watch whites walk out without their luggage not being touched while blacks suitcase with undergarments are scattered out. Some blacks get away too because they know some one, which should not be. AND THIS IS ONLY A MINUSCULE PORTION.

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  36. Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    Now my last comment was disallowed. Now you see why our prime minister was speaking in parables.

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  37. Rev. Canon Dr. G. Llewellyn Armstrong August 14, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    Very good, my Reverend Brother. Let me add a suggestion to your challenging message. Representatives of all the religions (Of course including all the Christian denominations) should come together on a day, in prayer, and in prophetic condemnation of those who contribute in any way to the crime and violence in our beloved Barbados. As Christians, we still have to say, “Thus says the Lord”.
    I would further suggest that those same religious leaders look at means and ways of providing employment and available resources to our youth, including giving ‘a second chance’ to those who were formerly imprisoned.
    Religious leaders cannot afford to give up being the moral voice of Beautiful, Beautiful Barbados.

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  38. Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    I would genuinely like someone from the clergy with they much knowledge on the scriptures to tell me if god’s laws are done away with??????

    Also if effeminate men(which the schools and work places push) is acceptable by “god”???

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    • Jennifer August 14, 2017 at 6:22 pm

      Can you please quote/reference me some scriptures.

      Because I do not think that this people truly understands the time bomb that this people is sitting on.

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  39. BobotheClown August 14, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    The current Attorney General who was lobbied for so much by this Government is to be blamed as much as the Government that hired him when others from Barbados and or the region would have done a good job ,but not even considered must take a lot of blame for the Guns and gun violence that is plagueing Barbados at the moment.
    Mr. AG ….. YOU HAVE BEEN A DISAPPOINTMENT ….. BIG TIME….

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