Clergymen lament spate of gun crimes

The hearts of some of this country’s religious leaders are troubled by the recent spate of gun crimes, with one church leader lamenting that “the children of slaves are now killing the children of slaves” while another is describing the killers as cowards.   

With three people shot to death within the last month, and another escaping with his life after being shot in the head in the wee hours of Monday morning, Rector of the St George Parish Church Reverend John Rogers is wondering what has gone wrong with Barbados.

Reverend John Rogers

“It is really troubling that as we are about to celebrate Emancipation Day [Tuesday] that is where we are: the children of slaves are now killing the children of slaves. Rather interesting,” Rogers said.

He bemoaned the number of illegal guns that fall into the hands of would-be killers, many of whom he said did not care about the sanctity of life.

“I do not know if there are more advanced guns on the street . . . . I think this has been coupled with a seeming lack of care or regard for the sanctity of human life amongst many of our young people. So it is just ‘live for today no matter what happens. If I need something I will just take it by any means possible’,” Rogers said.

While fellow clergymen sought answers to the rise in gun killings, Senior Pastor of Restoration Ministries on Gunsite Road, Brittons Hill, St Michael Dr David Durant felt the problem had its root in dysfunctional homes.

Durant, a Government senator, argued there were too many angry young people on the streets of Barbados, many of whom came from dysfunctional homes without father figures, and headed by females who did not have the time to listen to their children’s concerns.

Dr David Durant

While announcing that some of the churches would jointly organize a day of prayer on Kadooment Day against crime and violence, as well as for the island’s youth, families and the economy, Durant said the time had come to engage the young people where the live and hang out.

“I think we should have more town hall meetings so that the young people can express themselves and we can share strategies. We must outline our plans to help them heighten their respect for human life,” he told Barbados TODAY.

Meantime, St Barnabas Church Rector Reverend Mark Harewood said like most Barbadians he was distressed over the killings.

Referring to the murder of 58-year-old Colleen Beresdean Payne of Eden Lodge, St Michael who was shot while transacting business at an automated banking machine on University Drive, St Michael on July 18, the Anglican cleric said the alleged killers were cowards, even as he raised serious concern about the number of guns falling into the wrong hands.

“The whole question of guns has to be looked at. When guns are part of the equation they can go off at any time. A gun is very dangerous because you can get a fatality. If you are engaged in a fist fight someone may sustain injuries that can be addressed at the hospital. You have to get guns out of the equation,” Harewood said.

Reverend Mark Harewood

Within the last month, Payne, as well as Jerome Wild Geese Bovell, 44, who was gunned down in Goddard’s Road, St Stephen’s Hill, St Michael on June 28; and 34-year-old Closton Robinson of Parish Land, Christ Church who succumbed to his wounds after he was shot in the face sometime between 1:30 a.m. and 2:30 a.m. on July 28 while celebrating his birthday at the Soaliom Bar in Parish Land, Christ Church, all died violently from gun attacks.

This morning a Christ Church man survived a gunshot wound to his head after he was attacked outside his Fairy Valley residence.

He was treated at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital and discharged.          
nevilleclarke@barbadostoday.bb

20 Responses to Clergymen lament spate of gun crimes

  1. Joey St
    Joey St July 31, 2017 at 11:26 pm

    Enough talk…talk is cheap, time to do something about the crime and violence

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    • Hewers of wood August 1, 2017 at 8:54 am

      Oh god, now here we go. Now this thing is worrying!!!!! Why do we keep talking about slaves. What are we really TRYING to say, but is afraid to say???? or is this term only being used loosely at every given moment. Do we even know what the word slave means???? We need to have a definition of the word slave. Clearly these men of the claut have no answers seeing that they are still wondering. Well let me help you out Exo 24:8. Lev 26:3. Hosea 4:6. THAT’S WHY. And don’t bother to prayer either until you do what you were told Deut 28:45, Isaiah 56:10. John 9:31. You will need your Urim and the Thummim and that breast plate for starters. And you know what all of you lot are a part of the big stitch up and lock down of this people. And those supposed town hall meetings will be futile, seeing that these people have gone past listening. At least Mr Stuart had some good sense to speak in parables, but you lot is not even trying. Could it be your tongue is some how stitched up?????

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  2. Hewers of wood August 1, 2017 at 1:51 am

    How can a people get so stitched up and bagged is a sight to behold. How can every single social entity of a people get so displaced and supplanted. Unless we get un-cloned we are truly blowing wind into the air.

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  3. Carlos August 1, 2017 at 8:24 am

    I didn’t know that slavery still exist in Barbados.

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  4. Carlos August 1, 2017 at 8:24 am

    I didn’t know that slavery still exist in Barbados.

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  5. Carlos August 1, 2017 at 8:26 am

    Pardon me Reverend, these killers are not children of slaves.

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    • Roger Headley August 1, 2017 at 8:45 pm

      So they are the descendants of?

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  6. Elizabeth August 1, 2017 at 9:09 am

    To all the comments above I realize none of you have suggestion but only to down talk what was said not that I total disagree with you but where are your suggestions this is where we fail as a people always ready to pull down but don’t have anything to put in the place.
    – There need to be a more police present in the community and not just the building, also not only in the day time but in the night.
    – the sad fact is that some of those parents mothers would have done there best but at the end of the day each person have to make a choice for there life therefore it should not be a fanfare when them going to prison so prison life need to be examine when it was in St Lucy people would cry not to be sent down st Lucy why prison life was not that sweet in the north.
    – first time person should be put in a different environment so there can learn skills and not be taught by seasoned criminals.
    – hanging need to come back maybe person will think twice before them kill someone but the justice systems but be sure.
    – the government and persons in high places need to be exam because the fact is someone big got to be involve in bring in those gun.
    People we too small for this each of us as a people have a part to place we can’t live like crab in a barrel. The way we going barbados soon gin need help from outside and because of our side it will be easy for us to be control we are not like other place where we can run to the next city or so, people seriously think about it, I believe you can handle your business in a other way without taking a life. I am sure if a gun was put to the killers head there too would beg for there life we are not. God people. Just some view some may agree and some disagree and that is ok to each there own but we can not just sit back and watch because we young today and tomorrow when going to be old in a worst country. Something have to be done before it is too late.

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  7. Clarion August 1, 2017 at 10:49 am

    What the good Clergy should do is teach the populace that the Commandments are still binding, not “done away with.”…..then they’d know how to truly live. They’d know that “Thou shalt not kill.”

    The world is dying! Barbados is not alone.

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  8. jam August 1, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    blame the white man…that usually covers everything

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  9. jrsmith August 1, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    @, Hewers of Wood, hail, hail, your (8:54) right on the button , the (Lock down) of our people .. the voices of what shootings in barbados was gong on for years, why didn’t the religious manufactured organization ……….. Challenge the ( Priminister/ Government ) as to what is being done ,why we have this increase in crime, why so much guns is on our streets , why the big criminals are no sitting in the queue at (DODDS) to be be lock down…..
    We need a criminal clear out in barbados, Barbados is protecting lots of foreign criminals , thats why our (BPF) needs outside help they are fighting on too many fronts to win………….. lots of bajans know who have the guns ,who have the drugs ,how the guns are getting in and who owns them…..But lots of bajans lifestyle depends on criminal acts……………………………..

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    • Hewers of wood August 1, 2017 at 1:25 pm

      @Jrsmith – well spoken. The problem we are dealing with is TAX EXEMPTION and 501C3. These clergy sit in the church and REFUSE to tell people that gayness, hoe dressing, killing, adultery, REVELING, drunkenness is all sin and the whole 9 yards written in that book. They say the laws of god are done away with and have inadvertently implemented the laws of man which is no law. Holly days which are not even written in the said bible and connected to every idol know to man they are up keeping and the like and tell people come as you are and literally stay as you are. Then we talk about emancipation when you are still carrying every facet of your oppressor. If the church was doing their job the society will not be in such a state. Smh

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      • Hewers of wood August 1, 2017 at 1:32 pm

        BT today, I don’t mind if you moderate, just know that the truth is not being spoken by NO ONE and this is why we got so many guns and killing in this small place call Barbados. We need to stop being upholders and blockers of the truth regardless of whom it offends.

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  10. Alex Alleyne August 1, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    Hey, you youngsters so far for the year 46.9 MILLION VINYL ALBUMS SOLD IN THE USA. Go use your brain and make some music and earn some money and stop killing each other.
    ONE THING ABOUT MUSIC, “WHEN IT HIT YOU , YOU FEEL NO PAIN”.

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  11. Alex Alleyne August 1, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    I do not believe or will I accept this argument of “children gone bad due to “DYSFUCTIONAL HOMES” Many young people came up in this “new” era and just cannot find a “good paying job” unless you got a GODFATHER.
    Young girls are taken advantage of by bosses on the job and must endure such punishment. The AG and the Law courts put together need to be revamp.
    JOBS, JOBS and more JOBS will bring the minds of most of the youngsters who are willing to make the change back in check. The others who are bent on crime will just have to ROT IN DODDS.
    I take my hat off to the RBPF for all the hard work in order to bring these gunmen to court.

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  12. Carlisle Norville August 2, 2017 at 9:04 am

    Here is a( REALITY CHECK), weather you believe or don’t believe, there
    is a Supreme Grand Master that told us what to do while you live your short life on his Earth, & he said Obey my COMMANDMENTS
    & LIVE, if you go contrary to my commands you will, PERISH the
    church the Roman Catholic church has told us along with the Pentecostal churches we dont need any LAW, we are under grace so you can live as you like & GOD will be mercifu,l after all we are only human ( boy we in for a RUDE AWAKENING the lie about the
    rapture that the church has fed us with has left us in great delusion 50 bookes were taken out from the bible ( one of them the Apocrapha tells you in( 2 Esdras from chapter 13 & onward) the truth about the lie the church has told( if they left the Apocrypha in the bible), you would NEVER belive the Rapture Lie, N.B.( The LORD Y’SHUA or Jesus is NOT coming to rapture nobody ,he said Blessed is he that endures the trbulations that will be in the earth, it sayes in the scriptures (blessed is he that endures to the end, he shall recieve his reward, you Christians better beg the LORD for an enduring spirit ,with all the Horrors that are about to come soon
    you either endure by the power of the LORD to keep you, or you perish ( sorry NO Rapture) ( that which i have Spoken Shall shurely come to pass AMEN). I know my Spiritual Athority, that is why i can speak the way i do.(Haggion Selah.)

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  13. Carlisle Norville August 2, 2017 at 9:34 am

    this comment is for those of you, who know that you are spiritually inclined & you are educated,(the Ascended masters of light, & the LORD Y’SHUA HAMMASHIAC ( who is called JESUS the CHRIST)taught many,many things (the Roman Catholic Church under the direction of Pope Constantine) took over 50 books from the teachings of the CHRIST, they even told or made us believe that Jesus is a white man ( the Bible in Revelations chap 1 you read that
    the LORD has wholly or notty hair, & darh skin, the white man has Brained washed us through Slavery ( watch the willie lynch chip vedio)he has tahen away our GOD ,& our history, a people that do not know their History have NO past ,or NO future, the white man is afraid that if blacks get to know, what they did to our parents, & children we will rise up & kill them, for the atrocities they did against
    Black women & men, I am NOT advocating violence ,i am saying it is time black & brown peoples here in Barbados, realize that the small minority of white people runnings things in this island should be challenged, first ( make the ministers in parliment change those white laws that are in parliament, that, instruct how blacks are to be treated in Barbados, the laws hinders the progress of blacks on the island,they were handed down by white slave masters & are used against us today, we will always be kept down if those laws in parliament are not CHANGED, people of colour WAKE up, from your SLEEP( it is TIME for CHANGE my people.)

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  14. jrsmith August 2, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    @, Carlisle ,N , hail, hail, your (9:34) big shot on the button ……..
    Us black people , we need our own (Black Jesus ) which we are sure about , his life and death and his burial, my choice …………..( ( Nelson Mandela ))…………………………………………………..
    The question black people should be asking ,where was God and Jesus during the centuries of slavery , what sins black slaves committed that black people stupidly thinking …(Jesus died for our sins )……..
    Black people is still in (lock down) still being control by the new generation of the past slave masters………………………………
    Black people is still being trick by the white man , the white hide his money so the black man cant get to it,,……….. Thats the white man’s (Tax Haven) but then to keep the black man from running away and behaving himself, he is promised when he dies he the black man , will go to (Heaven) everything free milk and honey flowing from the pearly gates………………………
    Our 50 years of (Independence Dependency) and still 1% of our nation is in control , people who do not get involve in the political
    going ons in barbados…………………………..
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    Our people had to endure almost one decade of economic pain
    lies , insults , arrogance , rudeness , disrespect by and from a non productive government ,,,,,,,, who lacks the management skills to run Johnny rum shop in deacons roads……….with no accountability to the black masses , who because they casted a vote and thought thats the best thing they ever did ……. …………………The vote they cast was only to secure the politicians they jobs for the political term , whether they failed or not….. but they have failed big time and the voters had no right other than waiting on an election to remove them…………………
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    Bajans ,we want to make sure our nation will never ever be in this position again , totally disable from doing anything , not even the opposition did anything over the years……………….The time is now here (Bajans is in unity) 20,000 marchers black and whites the most peaceful march , which give the government a bloody nose until the only thing they did was to talk rubbish, which they always do anyway………………….
    …………………… Lets us now get in place an (Act) of parliament namely so the (Accountability Act) to protect our people from the politicians , making sure the party which wins the next election is on notice , as easy as they were voted in ,would just as easy to remove them from office if they are working for and on behalf of the people……. we want our country back…………………………..

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  15. L King August 2, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    What the heck.

    This use of the word slaves would have our ancestors turning in their graves in disbelief: we don’t know what slavery is we weren’t born slaves and neither were most of our great grandparents. So stop this foolish label of slaves our great ancestors smelt hell on earth for they were truly sadly slaves.

    The government needs to stop talking and talking on this matter in regards to guns and start doing something NOW about it.

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  16. Carlisle Norville August 3, 2017 at 9:03 am

    I made the above reply to jam, with some anger in me, in so doing i misspelled some words,( those of you who would criticize my spelling i ask your pardon.)

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