We are raising killers, says Jones

Against a backdrop of a rash of murders in Barbados, allegedly committed by young people, Education Minister Ronald Jones has accused indulgent parents of raising young people as killers.

Addressing a scholarship fund-raising dinner of the Lynch Secondary Old Scholars Association, Jones said that Barbadian society of years gone by collectively raised children with a sense of responsibility knowing that they must earn what they wish to have, but today parents give to their offspring willingly.

“The reality of our nurturing was embedded in all of us so we weren’t killers. We weren’t killers at all. We were developers of a nation,” he said at the Clock Tower, the Garrison.

“Today the licence to kill has been given by those who just give their children licence to do foolishness, and not to be part of the formative development of themselves or their  families.”

As an example, he said that a 23-year-old could demand food from a mother and will get it, “when you should be working somewhere”.

Lynch Secondary, was opened in 1886 and closed in 1991 but still has an active alumni association, members of which sponsored the dinner last night to begin a scholarship fund for young persons in the name of an outstanding teacher, Mellis Gooding.

Jones said that while Barbados in the past had few ideal families, “there is an argument that some of our families [today] are dysfunctional”.

He said that despite not being ideal, families of the past were not dysfunctional either.

“We’ve had structures that helped form and make that family world, grandparents across the way, or in the same village or the same gap; aunts and uncles who stepped up to the plate to ensure that younger children benefitted from family socialisation”.

168 Responses to We are raising killers, says Jones

  1. Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    Blame the house of Esau. Good start.

    • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 5:13 pm

      Set you up and then keep you on a leash and let you run the range of self destruction. Give things another 5yrs and we will see real purging. Don’t leave home after dark.

      • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 5:28 pm

        In reality if there was not so much snares and traps on this people we would not be in this position. All of them child rights groups, Amnesty input, Lack of input and presence of a father in the home, religion upholding every evil on the books, governments who are nothing but enemies to black people progress etc. Back then we had families and communities who were more close knit and would share and look out for each other (children too). Now it is about who is better that who because of a bigger house or car and job and $hit. I go into my house and i ain’t nothing to do with my neighbor. No wonder you finding a lot of us dead in our homes too and decaying same way that our society is doing. Slavery should have banded us as a people but instead we grapple for the left over crumbs all over each other and as a result ended up in a bigger cycle of separation.

        • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 6:05 pm

          “We are raising killers” thanks to people like you Jones. Now take a bow.

  2. Gavin Dawson
    Gavin Dawson July 30, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Well mr Jones why don’t you bash some heads together????

  3. Caroline Boxill
    Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    Well Cellphones Allowed at Schools now .will even encourage them to more up de thing even worst . He Always contradicting himself

    • Lilian Lloyd
      Lilian Lloyd July 30, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    • Anna Bovell
      Anna Bovell July 30, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      Given that tablets and laptops are coming into schools because simple things like new text books the Government since I left school in 2014 could not afford……. Cellphones are the least of your worries. The issue has always been poor parenting.

      So I would hope you are being sarcastic.

      • Real Bajan July 31, 2017 at 7:51 am

        I am tired of hearing “parents are to blame”. “Bad parents” have produced “good children” and “good parents” have produced “bad children”. The blame does not lay at the feet of one institution! All our institutions have contributed to the problem we have! The church, schools, parents and our leaders.

    • Caroline Boxill
      Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 5:27 pm

      There’s not even Good Wi-Fi at most of the schools . So it is ill conceived from the start. No one is arguing the technology isnt here but when will they be properly instructed on the correct use? During the teacher’s lunch times and after school?

    • Anna Bovell
      Anna Bovell July 30, 2017 at 6:04 pm

      Caroline Boxill
      You dont exactly need wifi to use the stuff. A data plan on my phone and projected a Hotspot. Some devices can also take data plans….

      There should be good wifi in schools. You all can’t afford to provide the text books, or print student materials.
      Proper instructions from teachers isn’t necessary if parents did their jobs like mines did theirs.

    • Doreen Waithe
      Doreen Waithe July 30, 2017 at 6:08 pm

      still he want ya get more çhildren

    • Caroline Boxill
      Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 6:11 pm

      Who paying for the data plans for the thousands of students across the schools? “There should be good Wi-Fi” but there isn’t that’s the reality. Tell me as you so kindly noted, resources are unavailable, heavily so…but you believe the cost of tech will be easier?

    • Adrian Allison
      Adrian Allison July 30, 2017 at 6:34 pm

      You gotta be kidding !!!
      It isn’t cellphones and other gadgets that causing disruption in the schools but a lack of training by irresponsible parents plain and simple.

    • Caroline Boxill
      Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 6:41 pm

      No where was it said that they cause it but they can and do add to the problems him and this ministry created

    • Caroline Boxill
      Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 6:42 pm

      Anyway this article was about him calling the youth criminals when not too long ago he said to give them a break for the same criminal behavior

    • Caroline Boxill
      Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 6:49 pm

      And it’s not All parents alone to blame some children have the worst parents and still be the best child /children . So it’s not Always a parent /parents to always blame it’s what you want to be and to have a mind of your own .And when you have a minister giving the children more powers than teachers what would you expect

    • Anna Bovell
      Anna Bovell July 30, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      Caroline Boxill
      Most parents generally already bear the cost themselves. Children do not have more power than teachers. In fact lots of teachers abuse their authority hence why corporal punishment had to be removed.

    • Caroline Boxill
      Caroline Boxill July 30, 2017 at 7:16 pm

      Do you know anyone currently teaching? If you did I’m sure you wouldn’t have some of these opinions. Look at how quick you were to defend the children and put down teachers (not saying all are great) but this is the problem. It was nice to see your view point on these issues but we’ll have to agree to disagree, have a goodnight.

    • Rishona Graham
      Rishona Graham July 30, 2017 at 7:34 pm

      She said the wifi bad !!!

    • Rishona Graham
      Rishona Graham July 30, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      Why would I parent pay for a data plan if the school implements technology they should foot the bill .

    • Sonia Bragg
      Sonia Bragg July 30, 2017 at 8:48 pm

      Point is that the children already have cell phones with data plans. ..guess what the schools ain’t currently providing those things but they have them.

    • Anna Bovell
      Anna Bovell July 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm

      Caroline Boxill
      My mother is a teacher, her sister my Aunt is a teacher of which her oldest daughter is a teacher… (cousin). My mother has a brother whose youngest Daughter is a teacher. (older cousin).
      I Refuse to join the teaching service. Teachers who are honest will tell you that there are bad teachers who do not prepare for classes and write up the scheme books and planning work books and teach students nothing. All while collecting a salary. They will tell you about the teachers who do not prepare and reject new knowledge in their classrooms and punish students for brining new knowledge and asking questions.

      I was taught by teachers. I was a head girl and my outgoing and confident personality made me subject to pathetic power trips and attacks to shatter my confidence because some teachers were infected with classcism and didn’t believe I had a right to even hold the post because of my humble beginnings or they were insecure and couldn’t do the things I would do my extra curricula activities.
      I was bullied and viciously mistreated by teachers especially in the latter portion of my school life. Middle aged anglican females were always the worst group.

      We can definitely agree to disagree Madam. My mother would give up so much time to prepare for her students only for me to go to school with an egotistical ass hat unprepared for class.

      Teachers want strong keen students until they appear in the classroom. Many see a challenge on theory as an attack against their person and cannot even handle frank discussions.
      T. R.A.S.H!

    • Mremail July 31, 2017 at 1:55 pm

      Caroline cell phones are a modern age means of communication. Crime and killing went on before cell phones and will go on after.

  4. Mark Rosmar July 30, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    I wouldn’t say that it takes a village to raise a child but it certainly takes morality to raise a nation.

  5. Jenny Maynard
    Jenny Maynard July 30, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    They’re demons, Mr Jones you forget you brand them.

  6. Carolyn Robertson
    Carolyn Robertson July 30, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    If I never agree with you before I agree with you now

  7. Claire Battershield
    Claire Battershield July 30, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    So wadda yuh expect. Demons right. Cant tell them nothing at school ,principals on mute ,can’t sent them home. Parents are just to talk .What do you expect. Look at the ages. 15.16. 18. Yup. Now we closing a school for children who did not make the secondary grade. When we need more opening. What have you done for education? Nothing. Instead of new revolutionary ideas you tore down teaches every time you saw a microphone and camera. One of the three major institutions to help in a society. Go and sit on the grass

  8. Gavin Dawson
    Gavin Dawson July 30, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    Well as you are the education minister why not start educating the school children on what is wrong, don’t just talk about it do something. Is that what education ministers are suppose to do? Don’t just talk any one can do that, put your words into action, and try to rid the demons in children that you mention about.

    • Kezi Wezi
      Kezi Wezi July 31, 2017 at 8:55 am

      That is the parents job.

    • Gavin Dawson
      Gavin Dawson July 31, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      Kezi Wezi we all know that it’s the parents job and parents need no telling, but when an Education Minister is telling parents they are not doing their job then something is wrong with minister in Question namely one Ronald Jones.

  9. allison archer July 30, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    the people ask=‘Why has the Lord decreed all this great tragedy against us? And what is our iniquity, what is the sin which we have committed against the Lord our God?’

    Then you are to say to them, ‘It is because your fathers have abandoned (rejected) Me,’ says the Lord, ‘and have walked after other gods and have served them and bowed down to the handmade idols and have abandoned (rejected) Me and have not kept My law, and because you have done worse [things] than your fathers. Just look, every one of you walks in the stubbornness of his own evil heart, so that you do not listen [obediently] to Me

    • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 8:19 pm

      Allison – you left out Isaiah 3:12, KJV. As for my people, CHILDREN are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they (schools, churches and politicians) which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

      Isaiah 51:20 KJV. Thy SONS have fainted, they lie at the head of all the streets, as a wild bull in a net: they are full of the fury of the LORD, the rebuke of thy God.

  10. Tom Cabrinie
    Tom Cabrinie July 30, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    That 11 plus thing needs to be abandon , I don’t even think they use that in England .

    • VoR July 30, 2017 at 6:18 pm

      Just because something is no longer used in England doesn’t mean that is doesn’t serve it’s purpose here. The UK school system has undergone a serious dumbing down.

    • Angel blossoms July 30, 2017 at 6:29 pm

      Tom cabrinie…what does the 11 plus have to do with what the minister has said…they don’t have it in England so what are you trying to say

  11. Michelle Kirton
    Michelle Kirton July 30, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    But want ppl to get more children/ “more killers”…

    • Coralita July 30, 2017 at 9:12 pm

      So am I to believe you agree that parents raising killers?

      Mr. Jones is not the only person who has stated that bajans need to get more children. Since when does getting more children equate to killers?

      We are always blaming everyone except who needs to be blamed. The parents are responsible for raising their children right. All the school, church and society should have to do is add to, or in some cases fine tune the foundation but parents are not giving any of these entities a foundation to build on. Parents of today are also in the habit of cussing and threatening those who dare say anything to their children.

      People have a right to be extra careful these days.

  12. Wayne Norville
    Wayne Norville July 30, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    This man always spitting in the air, who is always berating teachers in public, who told the Principals the schools are not their own, who told the children not to ride in Zrs then turn around and told them it was ok and who recently decided it is ok for children to take phones to school? Yes Mr. Jones you have every right to include yourself.

    • Claire Battershield
      Claire Battershield July 30, 2017 at 6:03 pm

      Once you know Wayne. What has he done that was positive ? Acting like a banshee all the time.

    • Ken R. Smith
      Ken R. Smith July 31, 2017 at 1:19 am

      He’s the worst excuse for an Education Minister to grace those hallowed walls of our Ministry of Eduction. It’s also quite disturbing that he was once a teacher and held a senior role in the BUT….frightening.

      • Sherlock Holmes. July 31, 2017 at 7:36 am

        That is a silly statement in respect of this matter KEN.R.SMITH.what does that have to do with the matter at hand ? Admittedly we have a serious matter at hand involving murders committed by young men and you seek to deal with personalities did JONES send any of them to murder anyone before you bray think.

  13. Eleanor Harewood
    Eleanor Harewood July 30, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    N he isn’t wrong

  14. Andrea Young
    Andrea Young July 30, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    Oh give it a rest now Mr Jones. Either stick with A or B…not A and B

  15. Patty July 30, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    The signs of the times give evidence that the judgments of heaven are being poured out, that the day of the Lord is at hand. The daily papers are full of indications of an intense conflict in the future. Bold robberies are of frequent occurrence. Strikes are common. Thefts and murders are committed on every hand. Men possessed by demons are taking the lives of men, women, and little children. All these things testify that the Lord’s coming is near.
    Last Day Events…

  16. Deenee Thomas
    Deenee Thomas July 30, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    This does not warrant my response.

    • Anfaani Henry
      Anfaani Henry July 30, 2017 at 6:14 pm

      What big rock does he live under…maybe push out the wild fowl and let him get some sunlight!

  17. Hermine Alleyne
    Hermine Alleyne July 30, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    Ain’t that the truth,can’t tell him to make up his mind because he don’t have one and his brain is on park.

  18. Sonia Brathwaite
    Sonia Brathwaite July 30, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    It would be good if this gentleman just shut up, one minuteb they are demons, next they are misunderstood and so nice, next they are killers. It would be better if he would stop talking period.

  19. Anfaani Henry
    Anfaani Henry July 30, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    So how do you stop it, kind sir, please tell we

  20. Anfaani Henry
    Anfaani Henry July 30, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    Families of the past were dysfunctional too. Cray family dynamics are not a 21st century phenomenon. Dis man is speaking fuh true? I could tell stories I heard growing up about the stuff that went on back there…the difference is, people kept things hid and there was no social media to put it on front street for all to see. Mr. Jones please go away now, your time is past. The children deserve better.

  21. jrsmith July 30, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Who is we, that are raising killers ,,,,( says Jones),, is this pointed at all the families in barbados……..blacks and whites ……………. He must reel up and come again …….when last a white young man was arrested for any crime in barbados , how many young white men are they in (DODDS)…………………….
    The trouble in barbados with crime we need a serious clean/clear out, barbados has gotten very corrupt, the big criminals who I think a lot are from overseas is hiding out and being protected in barbados , the local want to be gangsters our (BPF) could handle that lot easy…………………WE should the (US) (UK) and (Canada) for help , then you see the rush to get out of bim…………..

    I think this comment by Mr, Jones is stupid any way,,, no thought at all……………………………….

  22. Joy Waldron
    Joy Waldron July 30, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    Lmaoooo lmaooo lmaooo murdaaaa. …Waittttt is this same man that begging ppl to get more children. …no no no man.
    Barbados Today please I beg give me true news cause this one got me in tears …..

  23. Eudora Wiggins
    Eudora Wiggins July 30, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    When you disenfranchise a nation they will turn on you, these young people see no hope when you sell off their land and every election you let them down

    • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 7:21 pm

      Well said Eudora – and this disenfranchisement started a long time ago. It starts with the removal of an identity. Prepare for all out home grown war. Just wait and watch it unfold.

  24. John Dee July 30, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    Most things are never what they seem……This is an overly simplistic way at evaluating the situation….. I trust that there is still hope for our youth

  25. Terry Clarke
    Terry Clarke July 30, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    Please ask the Minister to wake up the AG from hybernating.

    • Cavil Best
      Cavil Best July 31, 2017 at 2:13 am

      What does the AG has to do with young vipers committing these gruesome murders, Terry?

    • Huey Newton
      Huey Newton July 31, 2017 at 9:12 am

      When the AG and Commissioner explained what is going on to you guys last week and what the plan was where were you Terry? Smdh

    • Terry Clarke
      Terry Clarke July 31, 2017 at 9:34 am

      Huey Newton I as an intelligently minded young man and a former Police Officer, I do not understand abstract language. But thanks for paying rapt attention to the COP and AG.

  26. Adrian Allison
    Adrian Allison July 30, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    I don’t like this man at all but occasionally he says something that rational people can’t disagree with and anyone who can say that this island isn’t raising a bunch of heartless killers gotta be blind, deaf and and dumb as a door nail.

  27. Keera Harding
    Keera Harding July 30, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    Y he always polluting the air tho less noise

    • Coralita July 30, 2017 at 9:22 pm

      Less noise until one of the killers tek out you or your family.

  28. Paulette Noel
    Paulette Noel July 30, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Why do any papers or radio station allow this man to speak ? He don’t ever say nothing that make sense. Stupseee

  29. Maxine Byer
    Maxine Byer July 30, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    How come other nationalities can come to Barbados and get work and not Bajans something wrong with that picture.
    The younger generation think that life owe them something but you owe it to your self and the way you was bought up .
    A lot of people leave Barbados and had to find work so why at home we cannot do the same thing at home.
    Life is a journey and you have to make a way for your self and stop looking for other to do it for us

    • Stephen Knight
      Stephen Knight July 30, 2017 at 9:28 pm

      Yes thank you.

    • Ibukunoluwa Ayanfe Ozioma
      Ibukunoluwa Ayanfe Ozioma July 31, 2017 at 3:28 am

      Could it be that they are filling the posts reason why locals are finding it difficult? Barbados is a small country and there are not a lot of jobs being generated either.

  30. Alex Alleyne July 30, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @Deenee, I am with you 100%.

  31. Viveean Foster
    Viveean Foster July 30, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    Hey some body just woke up

  32. Curtis Greenidge
    Curtis Greenidge July 30, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    I am NOT

  33. Jack Ryan
    Jack Ryan July 30, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    Again this is cause your government is afraid to execute ppl.

  34. Curtis Greenidge
    Curtis Greenidge July 30, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    A Community with the Lack of a Male Role Models, houses full of mothers grandmothers and unwed mothers. Cant we see what is going on

    • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 7:09 pm

      Curtis – Amen, but this is only a drop in that big bucket. It goes way deeper bro. This is like a dog chasing its tail or being stuck on that merry go round.

  35. Marilyn C Fields
    Marilyn C Fields July 30, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    Why do you always speak with water in your mouth …we are raising killers. .YET you still want people to go and breed and more young killers in the country. .? ?

    • Claire Battershield
      Claire Battershield July 30, 2017 at 9:00 pm

      Alright then .Must these jackass always bray ?

    • Coralita July 30, 2017 at 9:28 pm

      Can you please explain what getting more children has to do with raising killers?

      Seems to me like you are agreeing that parents messing to heck up.

    • Ibukunoluwa Ayanfe Ozioma
      Ibukunoluwa Ayanfe Ozioma July 31, 2017 at 3:26 am
    • Steve Babb
      Steve Babb July 31, 2017 at 11:56 am

      Ya know right,SMH!

  36. Darrell Catwell
    Darrell Catwell July 30, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    Hush yuh mout yuh clown!

  37. Pamela Woolaston
    Pamela Woolaston July 30, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Not just in Barbados.

  38. Chesterfield Walrond
    Chesterfield Walrond July 30, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    The man speak his mind. But he is not consistent. Raising killers may not be what we want to hear but that is what we are seeing

  39. Sophia Lewis
    Sophia Lewis July 30, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Yes you are Minister.

  40. ch July 30, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    The majority of our young people are not murderers nor criminals but are just living their lives peacefully with varying levels of success. Like the rest of us.
    The minority who commit crime, choose to do so and should face the consequences. They know right from wrong regardless of how they were raised or not- and their CHOICE is to do wrong.
    Stop crying and stressing over them and deal with the majority who want something better.
    The Minister should bring urgent reforms to education including providing resources and alternative facilities for children with behavioral and mental health problems who cannot thrive in a regular school setting. But, with the right intervention, they will succeed.
    I see his passion but it needs to translate into his legacy.

  41. Lydia Collymore
    Lydia Collymore July 30, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    Can someone tell the Editor that its Louis Lynch Secondary and not Lynch Secondary we Louis Lynch ppl are very proud of our entire name

    • Coralita July 30, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      Thank you. I was wondering if who wrote this article lives in Barbados, Such a silly error.

  42. Patricia Julyon
    Patricia Julyon July 30, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    You shud be proud of your achievement Ronald, your vision was and is rather short despite your wearing glasses.You got what you worked for . now your task is to TURN IT AROUND ; if you can .

  43. Lauren Kierulf
    Lauren Kierulf July 30, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    Teachers who curse at the children and who do not conduct themselves with dignity. Young children having sex in school bathrooms and filming it. Lack of parenting at one end and schools without structure and discipline. The problem – is there a way to turn this around or do we just sink into the mire?

  44. Curtley Greenidge
    Curtley Greenidge July 30, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Has not a clue

  45. Orlando July 30, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    There must be in this country a better system of education, a system that is in closer touch with life, and that fits rather than unfits for life. There must be something in our common schools that will make for self-respect , and for that respect for others that is a part of true self-respect, something that will develop faithfulness and intelligence and pride in work, something that will link head and hands by indissoluble bonds.

  46. Matthew Nibroc
    Matthew Nibroc July 30, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Youth without focus often leads to trouble

  47. Taurus Bull
    Taurus Bull July 30, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    He is de same man that said he hate when adults talk bad about the children when them fighting.

  48. Janette Reifer
    Janette Reifer July 30, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    When ever Jones and Kellman open their mouths it is pure foolishness. How can educated people talk foolish all the time? Min Education or ignorance? Embarrassing. He needs to know that words are powerful and that power is in the tongue. Instead of using certain terms to labeling all youth, he could have asked to pray for the nation youth. Thus would have been more appropriate…

  49. Francia MATTHEWS July 30, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    Sorry, Point of Correction. Louis Lynch Secondary was Roebuck Secondary in 1976 at White Park Road and closed in 2006. We are proud of our school, teachers and staff. The people there were mostly caring and family oriented from the snow-cone vendor to Lo the snack seller. The people getting children today needs to be parents first to their children and friends later. Too many so call parents ignore the wrongs their wards and children does and when something happens cry foul. This minister of Education should have been fired long time ago. When the school principles were trying to maintain order in the schools he spoke out against them; lashes was a thing of the past; so was give him the right now to say parents raising killers. He need to be fire just for that statement. He talk and think after. Shame on him.

  50. Sherlock Holmes. July 30, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    Sometimes i have to wonder if some only criticize for the sake of being critical.I have read what has been alleged was stated by the minister and i cannot find any fault in what he has said on this particular occasion . We do have a problem in the way some parents have been raising their children and that is a fact, some parents swear by their children even though in some instances there is compelling evidence of their wrong doing.Some indulge in the smoking of narcotics in the presence of their children and in some cases the children adopt that same vice.I have seen mothers with very young girl children dressed in the most skimpy of clothing and i do mean both mother and daughter/ daughters.I have seen young people of both sexes having absolutely no respect for adults who may have to speak to them concerning inappropriate behavior and worse yet having no respect for the police. I can go on and on but i will digress to these facts in most cases these children are raised in single parent homes and the lack of proper parental guidance which should come from both parents especially fathers is sadly lacking and the young males often seek that bond with other males who they view as father figures and this unfortunately might be a male on some block who also lacked the guidance of a father and these relationships often breed that element of influence that leads to criminality of various kinds. The exposition to the drug and gun culture then becomes a problem for their young and impressionable minds and the cycle begins from there, very few are able to think for themselves and back away from such vagaries the lure to such a lifestyle appears fascinating to them and if we are to guard against them becoming involved in acts like murder methods of intervention from all stakeholders must be implemented.

    • Coralita July 30, 2017 at 9:37 pm

      Agree with you 100%. I was wondering where the educated, reasonable, objective people of Barbados are. How can anyone read the article and cuss the minister is beyond me. The man speaking the truth.

      You have teenagers who should be in school committing murder and people cussing the minister. All the people in here who cussing Jones, I bet if one of these teens murder someone in their families their tune will change.

      Who raised the vagabonds? Blame the parents.

    • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 10:03 pm

      Sherlock – I agree with you, but No one can deny that Mr Jones is also the cause of some of this situation. The way he is managing the school system. When the incident with the Lester Vaughn school fight and the public was condemning that situation, instead of he condemning and taking responsibility, he was up in there talking about centipede eating young and rubbish. Give Jack his jacket. In life you either straight or crooked, not both.

      “He said he was appalled at the vicious onslaught by members of the public towards the students who were involved in the attack.

      “This society is eating its young just like a disturbed centipede “. . .

      And you know what the said education system has failed these young people (older people too) big time, due to its lack of focus on their true history and identity. This people is very far out to sea and has much to learn.

      • Hewers of wood July 30, 2017 at 10:22 pm

        Mr Jones you cannot say one thing to condemn in one instance then come back and say something else contradicting what you had said earlier. It makes you look unstable, weak and double minded. You are also making yourself out to be nothing but a harbinger.

    • Real Bajan August 1, 2017 at 12:43 pm

      Sherlock Holmes where is your evidence that most of these children are raised in “single parent” homes? If it is true; are these “single parents” males or females? The institution “parents” are bash left, right and centre but most people seem to forget that socialisation is not only done in the home. It happens in school, on the streets, church and other organisations. The major institution for socialising our children in this modern era is the school (nursery – university) among their peers.

  51. Patricia Rawlins July 30, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Build more jails. 80yrs before parole.

  52. Concern Citizen July 30, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    let’s help by allowing phones in schools without legislation or policy….. these instruments are the primary source used to initiate such activities as smoke signals are not known in this age.

  53. Nol Queen
    Nol Queen July 30, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    It so SAD.

  54. Donna Rosanna Shepherd
    Donna Rosanna Shepherd July 30, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    A lot of this starts at home tho. When you try to tell these young parents anything they ready to get violent. It’s really outta hand. Morals. Standards and values are non existent. Parents allow the children to do as they please. Mothers out there know that their sons doing wrong and not correcting them. This government ent helping one bit. So it’s the case of ride the donkey!!

  55. T-Kay Pinx Simpson
    T-Kay Pinx Simpson July 30, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    Over heard a parent saying few weeks ago at a primary skl ” everbdy know I would come hay n block n get on real bad..blah blah blah..” Parents like her raising demons thats all they good for I was so disgusted by her behavior I wanted to let her know anybody could block but sensible ppl wouldn’t opt to make an ass of themsleves.. Delinquent parents should home skl their kids too.

  56. Sandra basc July 30, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    Mr Minister let us agree to disagree. Parents try their best to raise law abiding children but children grow and develope a mind of their own and will eventually do what they want.

    I will also say that because of circumstances in the home some parents silently encourage their children in criminal activities, whether it be stealing, selling narcotics or guns or prostitution as a means to support the home.

    What do we do when we as nation including Government fail our people. Each politician will talk about building community centers and providing development programes and jobs for the youth, which never happens because once election is finished the politicians are not seen again in the community.

    Mr. Minister let us find a workable solution for the betterment of our young people. We know that most people who get children are not ready to be parents and the village is no longer helping to raise children because we are all higher up and better off; in other words full of ourselves.

  57. DE July 30, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    Yes, some of the parents are to blame for some of the young criminals that exist today. But the governments has to take some of the blame, especially the Ministry of Education. How many Secondary school in Barbados still teaches Metalwork, Woodwork
    and Domestic Science. There are lot of young boys and girls in our schools who are very good with their hands and are force to stay in an academic class all during the school year. That is punishment.
    The Polytechnic which is a technical institute that was design for person of that nature has now become a college. Those young boys and girls are having a challenge getting in to that institute, because you are saying to those same young boys and girls, you have to have a certain amount of CXC’s to in order to be qualified for an application. Now what do these folks do. They get depress, go on the block, get involved in drugs and then crime and then go to prison.

  58. Cher Apple
    Cher Apple July 30, 2017 at 10:41 pm


  59. Brenda King July 30, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    Lynches Secondary also called Green Lynch which was located on Spry Street founded by the Goodings is separate and distinct from Roebuck Secondary which was renamed Louis Lynch secondary located on White Park road.

  60. Cathy Jessamy-Babb
    Cathy Jessamy-Babb July 30, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    Dear God, Come among our midst and stop this evil that has come suddenly among the Barbadians. Bring peace, Lord.

  61. Cathy Jessamy-Babb
    Cathy Jessamy-Babb July 30, 2017 at 10:48 pm

    It has always been said that a well-educated society with nothing to do, will breed mischief and this is what is happening. Give the young people something constructive to do. We have an unbalanced society. The rich, the middle class and nobody cares about the poor. We educated the poor highly and do not give then an incentive. It starts with the education Minister. I advise the education minister to look within himself, first; then look around himself to see his wealth; then look at the poor persons he has educated to see what they have and then draw a conclusion. He has to come up with a solution.

  62. Cathy Jessamy-Babb
    Cathy Jessamy-Babb July 30, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    Give the good minister a chance to design a solution.

  63. Darson July 30, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    Government Failing the People ? or people succeeding at doing the wrong things .
    Mr Jones is Right : i said long ago , when parents are absent ,the Demons will be the guardian ; and i do not mean Angel : it is about parenting and family .
    Yes the teachers have flaws ; We have some good parents and some wonderful Children ;BUT BUT Stop Blaming Mr Jones ; when ever he try to make a case for better he is met with stern opposition from all sides ,
    just my observation.

  64. Mervin Stevenson
    Mervin Stevenson July 30, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    I know most still dismiss this as a family support issue I only agree in part. It should be clearer now that our education system is failing most of our children. Even in the “better” schools a lot of students are not being taught and seek out extra paid lessons. As long as this persist we will be encouraging a system that marginalises and demoralizes the majority of young people. They leave school with low esteem and reject a society that looks down on them
    I don’t promoting crime violence or other illegal activities . I’m just saying there is a level of despair and feeling of abandonment among these youngsters

  65. hcalndre July 30, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    The young men/women who are committing these heinous crimes do not have a job and the politicians are lying when the say that unemployment figures are in single digits. When the youth see these politicians with expensive vehicles and homes and all they do is talk a lot of garbage especially in parliament and try to out dress each other, so the youth wants to get too, by any means necessary, Mr. Jones.

  66. Bonita Weekes
    Bonita Weekes July 31, 2017 at 12:04 am

    Are Cellphones the real problem and who buys the Cellphones? Thugs were being bred before there was wide spread use of the Cellphone but as usual people buried their heads in the sand with their tails in the air and pretend that nothing was happening. Every foolish black male that commits murder is somebody’s child, how did he get in that position. You raise children without discipline or morals and then expect what. Last Friday night while at a bus stop in Black Rock 6 young boys past just before 9 o’clock, now tell me where we’re they going, whose house did they just leave. I have a Grand daughter in 3rd form and I can assure you that she can’t leave the house at that time unless she is accompanied by an adult. A lack of parental is responsible for what is happening. A 10 or 12 yr old does not work anywhere but yet have expensive phones, who buys them, I have a cheap one. The children were taking phones to school long before the Minister talked about officially allowing them in school. Parents got real mad when teachers took away a child’s phone, so again how did the child get the phone? Give them the phone, the $300 bag, $300 shoes and the earrings and what ever they want but don’t know how to give them the essential things. They learn nothing, leave school with nothing and then feels that the world owes them something, so they then decide that they will take what they want from others and wether or not you put up any resistance they will stab, shoot or chop you up. Then look what happens, the parent can then find money to hire a Lawyer to represent their child, Lawyers don’t cone cheap and they don’t trust. Put the blame where it lies, every man and woman that produces a child is responsible for that child, don’t blame someone else because some have failed in doing their job.

  67. Bonita Weekes
    Bonita Weekes July 31, 2017 at 12:07 am

    A lack of parental guidance……….

  68. Malcom King July 31, 2017 at 1:10 am

    Barbados is morally declining at breakneck speed. We have a week inept government. Parents who assault and curse teachers. Then expect that same teacher to look out for their children. We have embraced the wuk up and hip loud vulgar and disgusting sub culture as the norm. People watch violent movies and believe that is the norm. Violent criminals are given a slap on the wrist while someone who steals a loaf of bread is sent to prison. I wonder how these violent savages like those who recently chopped those two men to prices get money to pay their Lawyers. The people of Barbados are prisoners in their homes behind burglar bars while monsters roam freely outside. We have become just like our northern Caribbean brothers talking , walking, singing and killing like them. Time to remember what made Barbados great let’s get back to it

  69. Ibukunoluwa Ayanfe Ozioma
    Ibukunoluwa Ayanfe Ozioma July 31, 2017 at 3:24 am

    Well, I think he as a government official should blame the government as well! They fail to instil discipline at schools and generate jobs for the youth. What about the increase in sexual and other forms of abuses by everyone in the society from parents to politicians!

  70. Julia Layne
    Julia Layne July 31, 2017 at 5:00 am

    And Mr Jones want we to get more killers (children )

  71. Tony Webster July 31, 2017 at 5:04 am

    This man defies understanding; description; or definition. Might however make it into Bajanese… like “Jonesian” becoming “Ossie-Moorian”….raised to the power of ten.

    Hmmm…give Jack his jacket: at least he will not have to rent a P.A. system for his platform meetings…

  72. Bajan July 31, 2017 at 6:52 am

    That’s where we are wrong Mr. Minister. We are not raising them. The streets are. The gangs have taken an interest in our sons and have found many ways to make the gangster life attractive to boys and young men. They feed them, clothes them, give them a family and socialize them into a subculture of violence, materialism, and sexual gratification. How many parents can compete against their young sons having a spliff in one hand, $3000 in the pocket a 9mm in the waist and sexual pleasure with partners (male and females) of their choice?

  73. Harry July 31, 2017 at 7:06 am

    Kellman and Jones are both embarrassments to the the Govt then again where there is no leadership…………….

  74. Waiting July 31, 2017 at 7:28 am

    Solution is for improvement in the family structure with the love of God being central and this includes the presence of the father, so ladies choose wisely. Governments repeal the ‘no hanging’ crap and you will see the difference in our country. They brazenly kill but never stand up and take the blame, why do they run? Where is Amnesty International? They suppose to care so much for the taking of life but on these occasions you don’t hear a word from them until we are about to end a life. Why listen to hypocrites?

  75. Sherlock Holmes. July 31, 2017 at 7:29 am

    Have you guys noticed that to some degree it is mainly young men who are involved in these heinous crimes? I have continued to read the comments posted here and most of you are still blaming the educational system.I will admit that they are some failings in the educational system and one of the persons i strongly believe that should be utilized in the revamping of the educational system is former principal Jeff Broomes i personally view him as someone who knows how to deal effectively with school children and his passion to see them excel is genuine and beyond that of many who just talk and seek attention. Yes i agree that certain skills should be incorporated in schools i know some do have such facilities and this is in relation to DE’s comments but boys are more prone to be led astray and this is evident in the number of young boys being arrested and charged for serious matters. Our young men in my opinion start going down hill as soon as they start engaging in narcotic use i will bet my last dollar that everyone of those young men charged for heinous crimes recently are drug users and i mean marijuana despite what many propagate it is not so the so called weed of wisdom it is the weed of the beginning of destruction, it is a mind altering drug. Enough said on that, the difference that i have noticed with young school age girls is this… they might be very deviant and bad behaved in school they might even get pregnant during their school life but most of them will be out of school and have the baby return and the experience seem to wake them up and they often go on to succeed and in some cases further their education and become very productive members of society on the other hand the behavior of some young men lead to them being expelled from school and from there it is down hill for most of them. This is a problematic situation and the young men are seemingly in crisis as i said before serious intervention must be made to assist them and it must be an effort which include the parents, the ministry of education, social workers, the church and any other group or groups willing to help or we will have more and more cases of lost boys, as we can see girls are hardly charged or involved in these heinous acts.

    • Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 9:05 am

      The heinous acts which girls are committing is getting involved with these lost boys and breeding, then being on their own and producing more lost children. So the girls is deep in crisis too. The parents, schools and churches are the problem. This minister too.

      • Sherlock Holmes. July 31, 2017 at 10:04 am

        Hewers of wood you are a case.

        • Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 10:18 am

          Sherlock- I know, but I ain’t lost though. I can assure you of that one, When you are lost you will make comments like your last one. Too deep for you to comprehend that all of this has historical bearing.

          • Sherlock Holmes. July 31, 2017 at 11:10 am

            Understand me i do not mean that negatively i am in agreement with most of your comments even if i at times believe at times that you maybe a bit overboard.My knowledge and comprehension on various matters are very sound HEWERS.

          • Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 11:19 am

            Sherlock – Sorry Sir. I thought just as much after i punch the comments button.

  76. Saga Boy July 31, 2017 at 8:07 am

    Most of these comments are so rediculous it is embarrassing. Red herrings…red herrings….Jones is absolutely correct. Can any one of you point out where he is wrong? Too many parents have lost control of their children and it does not matter which class or race we are speaking about.

    • Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 9:19 am

      This is another problem we got as a people, from the time we start or try to tackle BLACK crisis or issues you get BS stupid comments like yours to pull in other races who obviously does not have a problem. We sort our $hit out and they will do the same for their people. Same thing emanated with the black lives matter lot, then white lives matter, and blue lives matter, then all lives matter and f$%# to pull away the real focus and detract from who is being affected and killed.

    • Bajan July 31, 2017 at 1:16 pm

      Saga Boy how many young white or Indian boys you see in the newspaper for heinous crimes such as murder, robbery, rape, burglary?????? How many come from the homes of rich and wealthy families?

      NOT ONE!

      IT DOES MATTER which RACE and CLASS you are!

  77. Bajan boy July 31, 2017 at 8:22 am

    With an idiot for Minister of Educated supported by illiterate like Sherlock Holmes what do u expect. Can’t even realize it is the system that has failed them and he is the head..sadly do..

    • Sherlock Holmes. July 31, 2017 at 10:02 am

      Bajan girl, finally you have learnt to spell the word illiterate i know you remember clearly that you could not i had to point that out to you sometime ago. Then again being someone who is purely political you cannot even comprehend the true essence of this article i however expect this from a low IQ person like yourself have a great day Bajan Girl.

  78. Alex Alleyne July 31, 2017 at 8:31 am

    MIK JAGGER IN HIS NEW SONG says it all about the “NEW” set of politicians…….’LUNATICS & CLOWNS”.

  79. Winnie Meade
    Winnie Meade July 31, 2017 at 9:27 am

    Please some one tell me is mr jones ok one time he call them demon next he call them killers well well what next you call them is time is comming i hope when he have children i hope they will not be demon or killers

  80. Richard Layne
    Richard Layne July 31, 2017 at 9:42 am

    The lack of real government is raising killers. The world is changing and yet you refuse to make the appropriate changes to cope. The young people are are not stagnant, always looking for direction, but there is none provided except that of the streets. The teachers are trying and you tie their hands and then somehow, (sarcasm), all the guns are there. The blame game is wack and solves nothing

  81. Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 10:35 am

    Who gave us the Church and education systems and inadvertently/willfully left out the black connection and history. Up uploading only European and greco roman BS. Ask any child in church who they are according to the scriptures or their connection. That question will never be answered. This is why Mr Jones and every minister, historian and priest is responsible for all of this massacre of our young.

    • Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 11:48 am

      You want to see these young people turn, put subjects on the school curriculum about BLACK ACHIEVEMENT, black melanated skin, benefits of having negro hair and the care of it. The connection of blacks to the bible and see things evolve for the better. And we can start with Miriam and how she turned and Moses hand. But the powers that be along with our disgusting leaders will not do this for a variety of reasons. Not to offend other races and not to uplift this people from their bottom base. While you are at in throw in money management, priority spending and investment on that curriculum and see what happens. YOU WILL SEE HOW THE CHILDREN WILL LEAD THE ADULTS. Please don’t tell me any garbage about any other race because they are not being effected and that is who the children are currently being thought about. We got many plagues among this people, bad foods, bad engineered education, bad leaders, bad systems and social constructs in general.

  82. Harriette Franklyn Boxill
    Harriette Franklyn Boxill July 31, 2017 at 11:19 am

    But yet u want us to get more children

  83. Belfast July 31, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    Ya got that one right, Minister Jones. This is the result of the people like you who we put in place to govern us, turning a blind eye over the years towards our errant little bicyclists, who grew up to be motor cyclists and ZR van drivers. Now we are in a frenzy because these ‘given-a -free-pass individuals” have now turned to driving AK47’s and fear into the otherwise docile people of this country.
    Thanks to wunnah vote catchers, one day this same feral out of control individuals may well challenge the highest court in this land. They have the means and the balls.
    I do hope that someday I do not hear anyone call anyone of wunnah a Statesman

  84. Justin N C Pablo
    Justin N C Pablo July 31, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    Obviously somebody raised a foolish politician …

  85. Ossie Moore July 31, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    Tourists ,visitors and Barbadian citizens who are considering visiting and living in Barbados are you reading and listening ?

    A recent survey shows that Barbados is now one of the most crime ridden Islands in the Caribbean , so please consider visiting or living in another Island for exp. Anguilla etc .( wait now for the bajans to start condemning Anguilla because they hate to hear that there is another island better than Barbados )

    But then again you don”t to worry if you are White , Asian , Indian or non-black because the only ones killing each other in this little 21 x 14 banana Republic are the stupid, black , always in denial bajans.

    To quote a friend of mine from Africa he said that ” they kept all of the good Africans in Africa and sent the a** hole Africans to Caribbean most of them to Barbados.

    Bajans can tell you what is wrong with the USA , Jamaica , China , Japan , Trinidad , Guyana and all of the other countries in the world , but they can never say what is wrong with Barbados. . . . . . . because they’ll say that there is nothing wrong with Barbados.

    But then again who cares about crime in Buhbaydus, as long as there are :

    (a) 5 cruise ships expected in the Bridgetown port this week

    (b) Crop ova this year will be better than last year ( there’ll be big prizes for who can cut and load the most canes . . . of course
    black folks will be the winners of this competition )

    (c) Buhabaydus has the world’s No. 1 entertainer

    (d) Buhbaydus is the most beautiful country in the world.

    (e) There is a big ” fete” on de island sarduh nite ( which of course will be attended by black people many of whom don’t have enough money to buy food but can the shell out $30 $40 $50 for a fete ticket ) and then go in town and put down $300 / $400 on a cell phone and then buy a semi – automatic / automatic firearm just like the one I used in the U S Army.


  86. Claire Battershield
    Claire Battershield July 31, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    If they will eat him raw

  87. curtis July 31, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    Today kids need God in their life first. Fathers and mothers should build a foundation for kids structured around the church. Without a plan to nurture and advise your kids, life for them would be a disaster.

  88. nanci July 31, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    its jobs and bad neighborhoods, the parents cant control the many young people who congregate in neighborhoods, and then look for trouble because their life is going no where fast, so they terrorize and claim this block, and that block. Young people need jobs, but thats a bad word in Barbados. Also poverty is a big factor in all this lawlessness and crime, and a lack of a good education is another factor. A lack of good homes also is to blame, because most of these young people that want to shoot and kill, came from homes where they were beaten and insulted, and neglected. Also why wont a mother give her son or daughter some food, you going to tell the child regardless of age to go look for a job, what if they cant find a job, they going to be on the streets? thats also a reason why some of these young people so angry, their parents kick them out the homes. If you tell a child of your go look for a job, and you cant give the child a plate of food or let the child stay at your house until he or she get on their feet, will the parent want that child help when time come around when that parent is not working or retired, or sick and what that same child to help out. Putting the child out or not giving them food to eat wont solve the problem.

  89. nanci July 31, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    Dee is correct on that one. I remember when the samuel jackman polytechnic was a free institution, you could go there and study, math, science, typing and other courses you were a little weak in at school, but you needed a little push to take the course. They now have it with CXC’s if you want to take certain classes or courses. Then some of these young boys get kick out of school at 14 or 15, the parents dont want them around in the house, so where do they go? on the block selling and smoking drugs. Most of these young guys have to impress the older guys to be a part of the master group or plan. I think the government of education should help those slow learners, have some special ed programs in school, but they refuse to help all these young people that are now increasing in the prisons. These young people should have a transfer to some institution of learning, and give them a stipend per week, that will help with transportation, lunch and at least a pair of shoes and a pants or shirt. If you dont help your young what is going to happen, mostly young men will retaliate against people in many neighborhoods. These young men that shoot that woman, and kill the guy in his home, these young people minds are gone, when they could sink to the low point of being predators.

  90. Cecil Maitland
    Cecil Maitland July 31, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Policing in bardown has gone to the dogs. We need to bring back the squad, lion man, dirty Harry, track suit top, big bill Johnson, kojak, rap brown, boy blue and those members whom i didn’t mention, they new all the hood’s and ghettos they used to go anywhere any time and most of all THEY WERE FIT YOU COULDN’T OUT RUN THEM, all I’m seeing now is a lot of big belly people in uniform, the SQUAD NEVER WORE UNIFORM, and no one wanted to go before MAGISTRATE PERRY, THE MAN WHO TALK ABOUT 3 P’s…P FOR PERRY…P FOR PINE AND P FOR PRISON.

  91. Milli Watt July 31, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    I wonder what Ronald Jones get and raise………….answer that Jonesy!!!!!!!! I would answer it but this is a family blog lololol

  92. Tony Waterman July 31, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    @Maxine Byer!!!!!Why do you ask a question that MOST people already knows the answer to, that has been going on since i was a Lad, they went to Florida to Cut Canes in Rat and Snake infested cane Fields, but never held a Cutlass in Barbados, some years ago did they not import Vincentians to work in our Canefields ?? YES!! Because most Bajans seem to have disdain for any thing and any Work that they perceive as SLAVE LABOUR, why do you think that Agriculture in Barbados is so close to DEATH??? no one wants to Work the Fields anymore, liming on the Block is Better.

    Mr.Jones is a Hypocrit, he talks out of one side of his Mouth about Parents and their Gifts to their Children, but HE sees nothing wrong when he gives them the RIGHT to carry Cellphones in Class.the Parents are wrong, and he is Right, because he is the General.

    BTW: Other Nationalities alway come to Barbados and Succeed, don’t know if you are aware, but the MOST Successful BLACK Store owner in Barbados, was NOT a Bajan, MR. N.E.Wilson was Grenadian.and some of the Biggest and Most Successful Today are Bajan, but are Mostly WHITE, wonder why???

    THe Horse has left the Stable, but thge Minister is Unaware, My Grandmother Died when she was about 90 Years of Age, and in that time Grand Mothers,Uncles, Aunts, etc were mostly above 55 years of age, Todays Grand Mothers are in the 40’s and 50’s, the Daughters are in the 40’s, and we have Young Mothers from the Teens and the early 20’s, the demographics have Changed Considerably, don’t know how/when the Minister missed that.
    Todays Society has Changed, the Village if you can find a Village has NOTHING to do with anyone’s Child but their OWN, They are Mostly Narcissistic Today.

  93. Saga Boy July 31, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Boy Barbados in real trouble. Most of you people are so illogical it ain’t funny. You went to school but you ain’t learn nothing. So I make a statement saying that there is n direct correlation between race and crime and people ask me to say how I drawing race into the discussion and how many Indians and white are drawn before the law courts for murder…etc. you can’t be serious. Indians and whites are not perfect. They represent a small portion of our population therefore one would expect that a significantly small number of them are hauled before the law court. The other factor or reason why they are not hauled before the law courts has to do with the fact that they use money and power and influence to stay away from the courts. We have several incidences of this in Barbados. White people commit white collar crime and get away and Indians get catch with drugs and get away. And they pay foolish black people to stay away from jail.

    • Bajan July 31, 2017 at 5:12 pm

      Saga Boy, white collar crime is a different conversation. We all know the whites and Indians communities are into that type of activity and corruption. We are discussing the outrageous, heinous violence against the citizens of Barbados. It is a pandemic amongst the black population. Blacks killing blacks in black neighbourhoods. Blacks robbing blacks in black communities. Blacks shooting over 1000 rounds of high powered ammunition in Deacons, another black neighbourhood and causing a whole community to be in fear and retreat as hostages in their own homes. Blacks shooting up fetes, in black neighbourhods. Even the black school children committing types of violence towards each other that is not observed in the white, Indian, or Asian communities (we have a fast expanding Asian population). YES, Hewers of Wood is correct in his contribution. We have to address this as a historical issue and come forward to our present. We have to find the root cause of such trauma in the black population in Barbados and the Caribbean.

    • Hewers of wood July 31, 2017 at 6:20 pm

      @Saga boy – Well said, so this proves my point. Them minorities ain’t want no help. Them already got co*n blacks to help facilitate and abet their crimes, financially support them etc. So blacks need to concentrate on blacks and sort out blacks. Forget about the minorities because they got their backs covered.
      @Tony W – we keep talking about whites and their success which is true, whites will pass on KNOWLEDGE and KNOW HOW to their children about investments, capital strategies, business management etc and we keep being flippant and tongue and cheek about the fact that whites took millions from the slave trade and passed it down to their sons and grand sons.
      But what are blacks passing on????? many think they have arrived and are ashamed to tell their children about the hardships and struggles they went through and that is what is also cutting our backsides. Far-less pass on anything else.

  94. Bajan July 31, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    Saga Boy it called looking at issues from different perspectives. That’s how we find solutions and solve problems.

  95. Saga Boy July 31, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @Hewers of Wood. We are on the same page.
    @Bajan. Many are not perspectives. They are illogical ramblings that bear no connection directly or indirectly to the subject matter. Saying that the Minister is foolish is an emotional response which does agree or disagree with his statements. But it creates the environment for persons to think Jones is foolish before he opens his mouth ..which is often.

  96. Ras Small
    Ras Small July 31, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    But yet U tell dem(ppl) to get more children, who ain’t got time/money ta spend on/wid children, and still yet, haven’t figured their role as “parents”, farless what is means to be a Black Wombman or Black Man.
    Den on top of dat u tell dem dey have to implement alternative ways to discipline said children, nah more cut asses, but boys in blue can soften dem up and DPP can continuously lock dem up, cuz wunna CAN’T pop nah necks nah mo.
    These are the same children dat have short attention spans as is and copy what dey repetitiously see, to further desensitize dem by giving dem full access to de new drug- social media/internet without supervision, regulation or direction.

  97. Elaine Vanhuis
    Elaine Vanhuis July 31, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    on point.

  98. Saga Boy July 31, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    @Ras Small. The Minister is not contradicting himself re encouraging people to have more children. Jones said that while Barbados in the past had few ideal families, “there is an argument that some of our families [today] are dysfunctional. He is correct. He never said all family were dysfunctional.

  99. Orlando August 1, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    Problem with the country is the people place in power to run the country, they are running the country into the ground ,turning a blind eye to what’s going on ,selling out the country to places like Trinidad wtf ,every one blame the younger youths but were did they pick up they bad habits from the elder s , the youth are a result of the problem s that have been created by the elders for there personal gains and selfish ways,rather that create opportunities it would seem those in power would prefer to full up the prisons and graveyards , the mess up thing is that it’s the very people that are suffering that pay the salaries of the politicians and police ,what’s needed is some backbone how can you see wrong,know it wrong and and let it happen same way I guess no one care unless it directly effects them how unfortunate

  100. Jea Alleyne August 1, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Nothing is going to be achieved by talking or blaming, this affects us all….. What actions are you putting in place Mr Jones ???

  101. Jea Alleyne August 1, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    We came from slavery, where our families were de-stabilised so we could not be a powerful force in society….. they were dysfunctional then and they are still dysfunctional now because no intervention was put in place when they emancipated the enslaved….. Mr Jones just doesnt know his history and he is the Education Minister

    And perhaps you can tell us who designed the “current” Education system, which has remained in force and is archaic, who forced the slaves to become Christians and gave them a Bible when they are “spiritual” people (actively practicing spirituality). Some of our problems are solvable but “nothing” changes in Bim…….. It is soo far behind the rest of the world with legislation but jam-packed with modern products….. We’ve been set-up guys as we still have no control over our lives….similar to the enslaved

    And furthermore Mr Jones, how do you expect a people to be worthwhile citizens when they are told blacks didnt contribute nothing to civilisation which is a BIG LIE. Isnt it time Barbados taught the positives of Black History, there is a lack of information and books written by Black Authors on our history, perhaps you can deal with that one Mr Jones as Education Minister and stop the blame game, we need solutions !!


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