Outrage!

Widespread condemnation of videotaped attack on student

She could have been killed!

President of Barbados National Council of Parent Teacher Association (BNCPTA) Shone Gibbs said that was the chilling thought that went through his mind as he watched a video of a student being repeatedly kicked by fellow pupils.

“There is no need for anyone to take the law into their own hands, but it must be prosecuted to the hills by the family of the victim because we cannot allow these things to happen, this level of bullying and intimidation, because someone could have easily lost their life yesterday,” Gibbs said, as he joined a chorus of condemnation of those involved in the attack.

In the video, which went viral on social media, a Lester Vaughan Secondary School student is seen being chased down by an angry mob –– some of whom could be heard hurling loud expletives –– before she fell to the ground and was repeatedly kicked in the head by some of her peers.

The attack was allegedly over an argument about a $15 bottle of hair spritz.

“What we are seeing is not normal, what we are seeing is untenable and it must be arrested in the interest of our country; in the interest of our future it must be arrested,” Gibbs said, as he repeatedly expressed horror at brutal attack.

President of the Lester Vaughan Secondary School Parent Teachers Association Donna Sealy expressed similar sentiments, telling Barbados TODAY she was horrified by what she saw.

She said the PTA and the principal were committed to resolving the issue, adding: “I don’t think that our girls and children should be fighting, and we need to get to the root of the anger,” Sealy said.

Former head of the Barbados Family Planning Association (BFPA) George Griffith believes he knows the where the blame lies.

The social activist told Barbados TODAY it is cultivated at home, where children are introduced to violence through flogging, and bears fruit at school.

“We really should not be surprised at this level of violence simply because . . . a considerable amount of our children are socialized in very hostile and aggressive environments, whether it be home or in the community.

“If you listen to the way some adults speak with children, it is always in a very aggressive or very threatening tone; and the fact we have taught children . . . to believe that if somebody has done something wrong, the quickest response is to hit, and I think that goes back to our attitude to hitting, flogging and corporal punishment,” he said.

“We teach children that you can hit and inflict pain and suffering when somebody tells you something wrong, but yet we say domestic violence is wrong and children should not be fighting on the streets or at school,” he added.

Griffith said it was time parents stopped beating children “into submission”, and he argued that Barbadians needed to decide what was necessary to create a violence-free environment in which to raise children.

“I think it is something we are witnessing in the society and it has to do with the level of impulsiveness and lack of discipline. We have to redouble our efforts to really train our children.

“All of us must get up off our backsides if we want to bring about a positive change in society. Instead of condemning the young people, think about the homes that those young women are coming from, how much aggression is there and how much they themselves have been abused and beaten into submission by parents who claim to love them,” the former BFPA head said.

Earlier this month President of the Barbados Secondary Teachers’ Union (BSTU) Mary Redman warned the Ronald Jones-led Ministry of Education not to allow cell phones in schools, saying these devices would only exacerbate the problem of gang activity and pose a major security threat to schools.

Redman had told Barbados TODAY a troubling trend had emerged where students affiliated with gangs from various communities were using their mobile devices to call for backup whenever there was conflict with other students.

She also said then there were many examples on social media of students engaging in brutal and barbaric fights, spurred on by their classmates, in a bid to garner likes.

“Cell phone use is contributing to the ill-discipline because as soon as there is a fight now children whip out the cell phones and the ones who are fighting know they are being recorded and they are performing as well,” the BSTU head said at the time.


katrinaking@barbadostoday.bb

80 Responses to Outrage!

  1. Bobby Gilkes
    Bobby Gilkes May 20, 2017 at 12:57 am

    I say this with out remorse GEORGE GRIFFITH you my dare sir are a JACKASS

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    • Carl Husbands May 20, 2017 at 7:41 am

      Sir, I couldnt agree with you any stronger.

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    • Jennifer May 20, 2017 at 10:39 am

      Bullying is a serious issue for both adults and children. Even right here on Barbados today there is bullying.
      And for all who say that licks/beating do not work. OH YES IT DOES WORK. Look at the Barbadian and Caribbean people from the transatlantic slave trade. In a totally submissive state who cannot and would not even stand up for their rights, being downtrodden by a few being all sappy and placid having good morals. So beating from the slave masters did work on you lot, total submission.
      Every generation becomes more stupid and evolve into a different creature. A lot of these children are getting their behavior too from u tube watching black on black fights. And this mobile phone ideology not being in schools is nothing but rubbish as anyone can see from this video alone that the phones NEVER LEFT the schools.

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      • Jennifer May 20, 2017 at 11:15 am

        Other issues we got among us as a people is – blind eye and do little syndrome which starts in the home and culminates across the entire spectrum of our lives, even when dealing with our politicians and not demanding change, even during mid election terms for non-performance. How much of us would have stopped to part a fight by these kids?????? Why, for fear of a beating, where does this fear come from?????? We have left the village way of life for the suburbs and terraces to be like THEM. keeping our minds firmly on our own selfish ways of life. And as I said before NOTHING WILL STOP ANY OF THIS EITHER the curse is progressive.

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        • Jennifer May 20, 2017 at 11:38 am

          In one of the videos I say a person driving a Navara type vehicle driving pass. What if the occupants of the vehicle had stopped to part that fight and took off a belt and put some lashes on them kids. You would hear how the police charge the occupants of the vehicle and the parents and the public cuss in the occupants. Mind you the ministry cannot do anything about this situation when contacted by the mother. That is why we are in trouble as a people. Everything is twisted and the right way round. Now you see why the government would not get rid of the common entrance exam, mind you all these children are doing in school is learning about the ways and achievements of their oppressors and how to serve them and keep their engine going and fit in once finishing their tenure.

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  2. Carol Grant Cumberbatch
    Carol Grant Cumberbatch May 20, 2017 at 12:59 am

    This is so uncall for, these children needs some jail time.

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  3. The Elephant May 20, 2017 at 1:29 am

    Violence introduced through flogging? hmmm. Agenda setting I see. A very UNwise thing to say. What is an activist anyway?

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  4. Anfaani Henry
    Anfaani Henry May 20, 2017 at 1:43 am

    Bring them and parents up on charges!

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  5. Wendy Clarke
    Wendy Clarke May 20, 2017 at 2:22 am

    Anfaani Henry why the parent’s ?

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  6. Timothy Thomas May 20, 2017 at 2:59 am

    Lol Bobby Giles, you got there before me. Flogging and child abuse are two different things. I know that I got my tail cut many times growing up and I believe I am a model citizen. I grew up in a village, village life meant licks from adults parents, neighbors, siblings and elders. I can say with certainty that 95% of the kids growing up in those conditions within my village are decent citizens today. Administering punishment with love is not abuse, it is simply correction. You heard the story with every lash, you just prayed for a short story.

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  7. Lanceford Skeete
    Lanceford Skeete May 20, 2017 at 4:25 am

    Why people always ready to say this starts at home? A lot of children act this way when they are on the road to fix in with friends. But at home act as angles. Most parents would be shock to see how some children behave on the road. And it’s only because of social media some of us are really seeing what’s happening. Always ready to blame the home, as if most of them coming out of bad homes. What about the foolish music on some of the radio stations when the day come? The behavior of some of adults in public, leaders etc? It’s more than a home problem.

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    • Rishona Graham
      Rishona Graham May 20, 2017 at 5:02 am

      Really. As a parent your job is to know your child . If a child is bullying people the child is acting out from behaviour at home. These school children don’t need any phones using it to humiliate embarrass and ridicule people. It’s their parents who give them the phone and would justify the reasons however this is all they are taping . They have sex they tape it . These social devices are raising the children .

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    • Lanceford Skeete
      Lanceford Skeete May 20, 2017 at 5:05 am

      I still don’t blame the homes alone. There is much more to this.

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    • Shurland Prince
      Shurland Prince May 20, 2017 at 5:08 am

      Sad indeed!!!

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    • Sherlock Holmes. May 20, 2017 at 5:26 am

      Very well said,there are numerous factors that contribute to these behaviors and for some reason there is now a chorus being sung by many that the parents are at fault. On occasion these children are more so influenced by their peers, case in point the same video. I saw an act where it seemed that even though the beating of this student appeared to be orchestrated some seemed to join in as they felt it was the thing to do. I am aware that they are parents who are not proper parents and have no idea as to what being parental is all about,but to ascribe blame to parents willy nilly is far from dealing with these situations. In some cases children do not at all exhibit these behaviors at home but will do so amongst their peers just to be accepted. Thus incident must be thoroughly investigated and the culprits severely dealt with, no parent seeing this happening to their child can go unaffected if this behavior is not checked and fast it will get out of hand. I have children and what i saw incensed me i am not one who would allow my children to be brutalized without coming to their defense and what scares me is the fact that i might not want to wait on the authorities to act it takes great restraint in these circumstances that is why an all out effort must be made in curbing this behavior and the culprits in this matter severely punished.

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    • Doreen Waithe
      Doreen Waithe May 20, 2017 at 5:46 am

      No rishona that’s what’s got most of we parents we feel we no we children

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    • Phia Cumberbatch
      Phia Cumberbatch May 20, 2017 at 6:21 am

      It’s tru because no one knows the true mind of another person .Some children bully other children to be popular, to be seen as fearless ,sometimes has nothing to do with parents

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    • Carlitha Andrews
      Carlitha Andrews May 20, 2017 at 6:26 am

      I totally agree with you Lanceford Skeete could not have said it better

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    • Charming Forde
      Charming Forde May 20, 2017 at 6:50 am

      I agree with you in part Lanceford Skeete, but as a parent you have to see your child in a different setting. You have to surprise visits to the school and interact with the teacher so that you can know how they behave at school

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    • Mariam Makeba
      Mariam Makeba May 20, 2017 at 7:44 am

      What wunna expect to hear ? A lot of them thinks nothing good of the children from those schools , they come from the worse parents, homes, communities. Just because it is not a posh schools as they deem the others, oh how I thank God for the eleven plus exam, please let it stay.

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    • Irma Dow Roache
      Irma Dow Roache May 20, 2017 at 7:55 am

      Bring back the older grandmothers (parents) we have to stay quiet sometimes because you are shut out if you say too much…and what is the law on Grand parents rights ?????? We grand parents can maybe save some of these children……

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    • allison archer May 20, 2017 at 1:10 pm

      yes Lanceford Skeete I agree it is more than a home problem but as the child spends the majority of time there observing their parents and putting into practice you can’t but agree the
      home is where the problem lies

      and true at times children behave exemplary in home but out doors they are contrary, that’s why the parent needs to be in relationship with those their charges spends much time with, always inspiring conversation with authority figures outside the home and their friends so they can strengthen those areas where their children are weak

      monitor the children very closely, nipping the negative in the bud, never allowing the world access to the home only what is beneficial, parents putting into practice what they want the children to achieve no double standards

      experts says the first 7 years of a child’s life is very crucial for their young minds are totally susceptible, vulnerable grasping concepts whether positive or negative which parents engrain in the child as this is the way so the foundation built or not built will determine the outcome of our little ones

      children become what they observe and it all begins in the home

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  8. RHB May 20, 2017 at 4:29 am

    @George_Griffith … Very selective facts! What about the 1000 times others who have been spanked by their parents and are model citizens? Your logic is like saying that because a few people drive recklessly and cause accidents, we should ban driving

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  9. Rowena Small
    Rowena Small May 20, 2017 at 5:42 am

    I don’t know what to say about the you the young people of this generation.

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  10. jrsmith May 20, 2017 at 5:44 am

    These kids know what their were doing , the family of this person needs to make sure the ones involve be brought to justice, the kids need to be punished , if anything like this had happen to any one of my grandchildren , those kids would all have to run and hide ……. the kids is totally out of order……………………

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  11. jrsmith May 20, 2017 at 5:47 am

    Black on black thats the real problem, those kids would not have attack her if she was white , they would tremble in they boots dare to speak to her…………………………………………

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    • Jennifer May 20, 2017 at 10:23 am

      Jrsmith – At the end of the day it will all lead back to that plantation, that is why they would never attack her if she was white.

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  12. Dawn Franklin
    Dawn Franklin May 20, 2017 at 5:55 am

    Some of the comments. Know you children. Please as if you can truly know someone. People show one face one place and another some place else. Same with children. It is up to the child which path he/she chooses.

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  13. Chem Chem Lavia
    Chem Chem Lavia May 20, 2017 at 6:00 am

    I remember a couple of years ago when the youth from Princess Margaret was bullied he was running from his attackers and was killed by a passing vehicle this brought back memories from that time, I have a seven year old daughter who have to finish primary school still have to attend secondary school this right here is scary this upsets me because most of these children are followers, show offs can’t think for themselves can’t say look don’t do that it’s wrong, like some one say we can’t always blame the parents but in this case all those parents should be held accountable these children needs to learn a lesson…

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  14. Samantha Trotman
    Samantha Trotman May 20, 2017 at 6:05 am

    We need a system where u take some these kids up to jail let some trusty inmates scared them straight

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  15. Mark Rudder
    Mark Rudder May 20, 2017 at 6:16 am

    So we blaming floggings as the cause of the problem…come on man. How about the lack of failed parental direction. The failure to teach respect and discipline maybe at fault. Kids these days are not taught by parents,they are taught by social media.

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    • Jan Adams-Bostick
      Jan Adams-Bostick May 20, 2017 at 8:52 am

      I agree with mark rudder

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    • Peppa May 20, 2017 at 9:16 am

      Correct.

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    • allison archer May 20, 2017 at 12:36 pm

      Mark Rudder I must agree with you being exactly on point

      few parents have the skills in raising their charges, giving them what they ask for and the children smiling and happy parents believe their job is finish

      in my view of society today very few parents have that time to make themselves approachable for their charges
      if the children does anything wrong the parent never allow them to forget,
      comparing their child with another where there is lack,
      parents disagree in front of them,
      give children all the money they want,
      never let them think for themselves and almost never discipline them

      I see no credibility , no independence, no cooperation, no problem solving skills, no critical thinking skills, basic academic skills being groomed/ operating in today’s children

      and now CCB/ UN are allowing the children more rights than the parents creating even more chaos

      society have to see for themselves the total breakdown of the home and cry out for help

      my advice the only Person that can heal this matter is our Creator Jesus Christ, imploring all and sundry to turn to Him for He is the only One Who can heal and restore
      very few children

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  16. Kay Kay Willy
    Kay Kay Willy May 20, 2017 at 6:36 am

    I agree and it’s all because of a collapse in parenting in Barbados

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  17. Mhizz Kelly P Forde
    Mhizz Kelly P Forde May 20, 2017 at 6:36 am

    This man got to be a ass wipe. I cut my child as and he’s not violent . He went through secondary school without a fight or a mishap. George Griffith you’re a complete jackass. Come again with something sensible do.

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  18. Rosan Als
    Rosan Als May 20, 2017 at 6:37 am

    I find today children trying to prove things to their friends stop blaming to parents,I get my behind cut coming up as a child but I was not like this generation then or now.

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  19. Winnie Meade
    Winnie Meade May 20, 2017 at 6:42 am

    Look what did she do it more to this so sorry for her but we dont know what it all about as we black people open our mouth it jail time we still got the white man way to keep our children in this thing jail we should try and get to the bottom of this lot of us as parent dont know what our children get up to when they or on the road with there friends
    As black open there mouth it jail that why we will never be better i would like to find out from her what whent on i do hope she is ok
    Trust me when we get ti the bittom of this we will be shock

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    • Charming Forde
      Charming Forde May 20, 2017 at 6:53 am

      I agree Winnie Meade that it must be more to the story that what we are hearing but can you honestly say that she deserves to be beaten and kicked in the head like that?

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    • Winnie Meade
      Winnie Meade May 20, 2017 at 7:03 am

      Charming forde i did not say she deserve to be beaten as a mother i would be mad as hell but as mother i would want to get to bottom but what i want to know why w black as we open our mouth it jail i want to listen to the child when a fight brake out it only god can save you with children boy or girl to me girl are worst than boys

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    • Jan Adams-Bostick
      Jan Adams-Bostick May 20, 2017 at 8:58 am

      There is absolutely no reason for this kind of behavior. How black or white get into this scenario sighhh

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  20. La Flor Linda
    La Flor Linda May 20, 2017 at 6:48 am

    These children committed a crime and they should go to court.

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  21. Kimber Lee
    Kimber Lee May 20, 2017 at 6:55 am

    These ‘children’ and their parents need to feel the full weight of the law AND feel it in their chequebooks as well.
    I include parents because well rounded, obedient, compassionate children don’t do these things. Dont get me wrong I’m not saying children won’t argue or even fight, but to this level….they behaved like little nasty rabid creatures. They didnt behave like they could possibly care about her life and that later in the school term they could be friends again.
    Parents need to establish early in their child’s life what is acceptable social behavior, all the way back in nursery school age children. Dont wait til they get to 12 and 13.
    Smh

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  22. hcalndre May 20, 2017 at 7:01 am

    Hi Mr. Griffith, I`m in agreement with you. Beating is what bajans big on, then start with politicians, the PM., his cabinet that standby and cheer lead the wrongs that is being done, the civil servants, the judges like the one who remanded a man to jail for telling a police officer what how he felt about him, flog everyone that is accuse of wrongdoing. Bajans believe in flogging (beating) now is upset with the children for beating on the other pupil, had their parents beat (flog) them they would be better kids. Did the whites masters talk about beating their children and their black nannies sure could not spank them, leaving any bruises on them. This beating thing that bajans are big on came down from the Massa days and still remains with most of them today.

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  23. Katrina Busby
    Katrina Busby May 20, 2017 at 7:13 am

    I agree that it is a gross lack of good home training but not with the lashes. I got plenty of lashes and I never did anything like that! I never felt the need too! I don’t think that they were even getting lashed at home. I believe it’s the lack of lashes, that is possibly why they are the way they are now.

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    • Toyna Green
      Toyna Green May 20, 2017 at 7:29 am

      I was thinking the same thing

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    • Alicia Beckles
      Alicia Beckles May 20, 2017 at 8:20 am

      I think so too..parent don’t share lashes like before. I got lashes and it taught be a lot.

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  24. Diana Cave
    Diana Cave May 20, 2017 at 7:24 am

    Nonsense . Don’t blamed all the parents , many if them taught their children to be respectful to others , good upbringing , etc what more can be done ! Children does what pleases them . I personally feel their should be put away for a period of time , so their can reflect back and see what was done was wrong . I feel so sorry for that child and especially her mother seeing the violence that’s inflicted on her , the pain knowing she can be dead , the expense also . I am so glad God and his angels have protected her . You goes to school to learn and excel , everybody can’t achieved but at least give it a try ,not to fight like going. Dogs , soon or later it will turn to the teachers , boys school boys don’t fight anymore , girls take over disrespecting themselves and in public , I remember the good old days going school , yes you would get into a little problem but nothing of this kind . Different generation of today .

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  25. Toyna Green
    Toyna Green May 20, 2017 at 7:27 am

    Some of these said same children like that because the parents fail to discipline them, de parents cant even get the children control. We make too many excuses for children that is why they behave the way they do. I thank my parents, grand parents, aunts and teachers fir the licks I got because they steered me in the right direction.

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  26. E Jerome Davis
    E Jerome Davis May 20, 2017 at 7:31 am

    There is more violence in the society now that corporal punishment is on the decline. This is a world wide fact.

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    • Milli Watt May 20, 2017 at 8:17 am

      @ E Jerome Davis that comment has put a hole through the belief that there is wide spread flogging. I agree with you flogging is reduced to a large extent and this is the result. I waiting to see if the police going charge who was involved. If that don’t happen then you will find this situation escalating already people waiting patiently on this outcome. I predict more trouble because the youngster that get beat got owners.

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  27. Joy Waldron
    Joy Waldron May 20, 2017 at 7:40 am

    Adults teaching children to bully and it’s not weak child that walk away it’s the one that want to keep peace that walk away.
    Adults need take blame for this .

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  28. Bobby Gilkes
    Bobby Gilkes May 20, 2017 at 7:55 am

    I say this without any remorse ..GEORGE GRIFFITH …you dear sir are a JACKASS…!!!!!!

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  29. Princess M R Charles
    Princess M R Charles May 20, 2017 at 8:02 am

    There need to be some kind of consequence to this brutal action if there is just a slap on the wrist then it will happen again and again and will result in one of them getting killed a sad reality I must say

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  30. Winnie Meade
    Winnie Meade May 20, 2017 at 8:03 am

    E Jerome Davis why do we love to talk about Corporal punishment why do people like to use that words i have 4children yes i give a few some time but not hard i think some old people like to beat children because they get beat when the was young and they like children to get it too them days or over look no teacher could beat me wa hen i was at school and when i have my children no teacher could do that to my children because some teacher like to pick on children they dont like and sone beat real bad thank god all my children are good man and woman no jail no court all have good job my grands are very good if you cannot put down rule and stick to it then you should not be a parent and all my sister and brother children are the same only 2give trouble i got 24 neice and nephew and so much great neice and nephew so and great neace and nephew some it teacher care giver some do work in other job but parent must put down rule for there children you cannot watch children 24/7 no way we as parent must work

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  31. David Brade
    David Brade May 20, 2017 at 8:04 am

    The parents at school and the children does go to work and some stay home

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  32. Juan Dottin
    Juan Dottin May 20, 2017 at 8:17 am

    Make a good example out of this crowd…the hurtful part about it, she was running from her attackers. Only one of those kids was wise enough to say stop. One guy. Make an example out of them . This need to stop before parents starting taking matters in their hands, because no parents want to experience this. Sigh

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  33. Janice May 20, 2017 at 8:22 am

    George Griffith you need some flogging yourself they have some children who aln’t get flogged and they still wicked as hell I am sick and tired of hearing about all these lame excuses for the children behavior and the children know that they have a lot of people talking about children’s right and single parent and different environment but here in Barbados we like to adopt the American style too much if American sneeze Barbados catch the cold

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  34. Juan Dottin
    Juan Dottin May 20, 2017 at 8:25 am

    Why are these children so angry….the system need to get the Social Workers and Counsellors to work…something is wrong. They are so angry n thin skin. That is not normal. I find children seldom laugh. Something is wrong some where. Children probably getting abuse and taking out on their peers…look at the Law Waiting System that is showing it’s face in Barbados. Who would like their mom to choose a man for you especially a older guy….this would anger any child, and i understand that child have no say in the matter….sigh

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  35. Waiting May 20, 2017 at 8:32 am

    I was flogged but also loved and disciplined and never thought of doing such deeds. All my friends were also flogged and it never affected us as Senor George is saying. Even him I am sure was given some lashes and I am sure he never exhibited such behavior, so come again. I agree with you Milli Watt, the world has gone soft and children lacks spiritual guidance hence it will be getting worst…mark our word.

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  36. Iteebah Cadogan
    Iteebah Cadogan May 20, 2017 at 8:57 am

    D parents of them tyrants shud b meant to foot her medical bills and pay to get her in a private school Cuz I don’t c how she can go back to that school

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  37. Nanci May 20, 2017 at 8:57 am

    I agree with the minister, it’s this beatings that some children endure from parents. I read a woman praised a teacher who use to beat her at school. When she went home and complain to her mother, her mother beat her, and then made her apologize to the teacher that beat her, that is some real BS. The parents resort to beatings because they want the children to be humble and not insist they live in a good environment in the home or demand parents love and attention. You gonna tell me these students beat this girl almost to death for a bottle of hair spray? Let the abusers go to jail, they should not be back in school. My mother use to beat me, and I won’t call that love, when a mother could beat u with a huge leather belt or a stick, then u go to school the teacher beat you also. It’s like they think black kids are animals. Then some kids don’t get any discipline in the home, violence in their neighborhoods, they seeing parents gossiping about other neighbors . Poverty breads violence, so it’s a combination of things, not only the children not getting beat, when u beat up a child that’s all he going to believe he can do. How many bajan parents talk to their kids in a loving way, how many, when the child do something wrong they want to ran for the broomstick, but won’t take 3 minutes to talk and hear the child’s problems, what is hurting them.

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  38. Tb May 20, 2017 at 9:19 am

    This man has just reached another level of Dumbness. Flogging as he calls it at home doesn’t cause this reaction, a lack of discipline causes this reaction. Cause if you know when you get home and your parents saw you were a part of this that you wouldn’t be able to tell where your behind stopped and the belt started you would not even think about these things. If you understood that parents need to set boundaries for their children and rules and punishments including yes licks then we would have less of this. Tell me what would you do if it was your child you saw kicking this girl Mr Gibbs? What would your reaction be? Would you say she must be deserve it? You ain’t kick her hard enough? Or would she be afraid to come home just cause she knows what would be your reaction. There are other modes of punishment yes. But the bible clearly states in Proverbs 13:24 “Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.” Children need to have discipline.

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  39. Trice May 20, 2017 at 9:20 am

    I was flogged but you would never see me kick a dog! What an irrelevant thing to say smh

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  40. Alex Alleyne May 20, 2017 at 9:22 am

    With all this , still some “fancy high flier” for a Lawyer will be in court making a case for these rebels who nearly kill this young Lady over a 3 cent jar of some foolishness.

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  41. Alex Alleyne May 20, 2017 at 9:23 am

    The thing in BIM now , if you don’t have a gun , then you share some blows. THANKS TO OUR AG.

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  42. Maureen Fields May 20, 2017 at 9:34 am

    A well mannered child: =home!
    A bad behave child: =home!

    Discipline starts in the home.
    A lot of people are out of control,
    they have children.

    Some of these children have single
    parent who works different hours or
    Shift…not necessarily bad mothers
    but have it difficult….If children aren’t
    grounded will go astray.

    Some parents dress and speak nice
    but real bad issues in the home, like
    cheating, threats and bedroom business,
    cardboad patiction don’t block ears.

    Right now in Barbados thousand of
    Parents are being lay-off….there is
    much frustration…some children will
    fight for what don’t belong to them and
    friends of same mind-set will join in.

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    • Jennifer May 20, 2017 at 10:46 am

      Adults and children are equally angry in the black community, look at the gun crime alone. Then we got the serpentine leaders setting up war within the earth. No wonder.
      All this is a lack of identity, assimilation into another people cultures and the institution of a false identity on this people. Believe you me.

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  43. Teacher May 20, 2017 at 9:59 am

    These children didn’t get violent overnight. It starts from early in life. As a teacher in the primary system, I see it on a daily basis. Little children now come into school in the Nursery Class, 3 years old and stubborn, stubborn. You speak to them and you should see the disrespectful attitude being displayed. You can’t use more curse words than them. Where did it come from? They are too young to be mixing with the other wider society, so answer me those of you who think that it is not the home environment. The home is the first source of socialization for an individual, my dear friends. For those of you who don’t know, a lot of these children are not being raised by “parents” but by individuals masquerading as parents.

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  44. Lorraine rose May 20, 2017 at 10:27 am

    I would like George Griffith to hush some he mouth at times doe !!

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  45. penoriel May 20, 2017 at 10:40 am

    George Griffith we must not put some licks in their behinds leave it for the police to do without mercy later on in life.

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  46. Alfred Shepherd May 20, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    This has nothing to do with beating your child, but more about the society we live in. Where videos takes the place of common sense. Where death and crime in glorified on cinema and television. Our children has lost the compassion and love that was god given. When I was growing up, we had punishment for doing the wrong things, and it didn’t force us to go out and beat our class mates, unless they did something to us. But this society says it’s alright as long as it can be seen on utube of twitter. Our children need some serious role models and training to let them know that the things they see and hear ar not the reality of life. We have drop the ball, cause we put a phone or iPad in their hands and let that raise them. No good. Parents need to take another look at how their children are being raise, in a sense without their input and values. We have to save our children, we need better laws and up bringing for our children, they need outlet where they can go and get counseling. This kind of swarming behavior on another person like themselves in unacceptable.

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    • Jennifer May 20, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      This problem does not only lie with parenting, it also has to do with the behavior of adults towards our neighbors and our wider community as a whole. We not only lost the love that was god given but the identity that was also god given and OUR GOD in general. We as a people have adopted/chosen the SERPENTINE LAWS (Caucasian base) that do not chastise but uphold crime and criminal behavior. Look at an Asian family for example they adopt the laws of their holy Quran, the MAN HEADS the family and principles are laid down on dressing, behavior, foods, culture etc. And you can call them terrorist if you wish, they are still better off. Every aspect of our being is based off Caucasian people. Now they want to institute gay marriage. If the adults are derailed then the children will also be derailed. Our women are very hateful too towards each other and would carry on hate for a life time and do not act as role models for our younger girls, only talk about them, and the men although more forgiving follow suit for the boys. We as a people are in a serious mess, with the church concreting it all.

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  47. mark May 20, 2017 at 2:54 pm

    If our black people knew who we were as a nation this would not be an issue

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  48. mark May 20, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Well said Jennifer I totally agree

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  49. mark May 20, 2017 at 3:15 pm

    @Jennifer well said

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  50. Ginger May 20, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    What do you expect from children who are being raised by social media and the mini-bus culture. And, the icing on the cake is having the minister responsible for education refer to them as demons and inciting violence in his utterances. Also, you have the parents who go to schools to “beat up a teacher.” Sad, sad, state of affairs!!

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  51. Concerned May 21, 2017 at 3:29 am

    Be serious you really believe that its because the parents of these huligants inflicted punishment in the form of lashes that they react like this…come on…children have been receiving licks for years..the fact is society has change..we are more materialistic and reality tv driven… many of these kids are not being introduce to the culture ( morals, christianity, respect)we once had and community spirit..there trap on there phones and social media. From homes to schools we are depriving our children from the foundation our older generation had..obsess with the ideas of the future we have forgotten to introduce the structures pass on from our fore fathers.

    As well corporal punishment isnt a problem its whose inflicting it..the system needs to assist parents more by introduce additional methods were parents are provided with information on raising children not we will continue to see children behaving like this..interventions need to begin from early on to curb these behaviour..giving birth to a child doesnt make u automatically able to raise one.

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  52. Patricia May 24, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    Whether we would like to accept it or not, the fact of the matter is that most of these situations stem from troubled house holds and environs (there is no reason for people to become sensitive about that). If a child is brought up in a loving and respectful house hold/environment, learn to respect your elders and be kind to others it is very unlikely that these same kids will end up in vicious attacks or behaviours like what we see today. Listen to your kids, try to understand them, stop cursing them, make a path of healthy communication, praise them when they do good and scold them when they do wrong and you will see the difference. We are human but human with a conscience. No parent is too big to apologize to their kids and kids get the habit or apologizing to your parents and others when you do something wrong. Sometimes even in the class rooms Teachers who are supposed to know better call the children foolish and other degrading names. Yes it is a frustrating time but this is no excuse. By bringing the kids down also brings down their self esteem makes them feel like they are nothing so what do you expect? If you make me feel like nothing then I will behave like nothing… one day they will flip. Make no mistake that I am giving the guilty students no free pass whatsoever, because in spite of this, they should be punished. If you are adult enough to commit a vicious crime like this, then you should be adult enough to accept the consequences of your actions. Parents take the first responsibility of bringing up your children in the right way hence they will not lead you to embarrassment and to some extent expense. There is also no fear of God any more, so we are in a very bad place. I must also add that this poor little girl that was brutally beaten needs justice. Nothing she did deserves that kind of beating, there was no way she could of defended herself. I pray for strength for her family and full healing mentally physically and emotionally for her and for the persons who passed/drove by and did nothing…..SHAME ON YOU!

    This is a wake up call for each and everyone of us!!!

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