Govt no show for Worthing town hall

Business owners and residents of Worthing, Christ Church were less than impressed that Government officials were a no show for tonight’s town hall meeting held at the Coast bar, Worthing to discuss the ongoing problem of awful smelling effluence flowing into the streets along the South Coast.

While those gathered took the opportunity to share their concerns about what many have deemed to be an environmental emergency, the prevailing theme at the near two-hour long meeting, which began at 6PM was one of disappointment over the fact that the relevant decision makers were not in attendance.

Participants were disappointed that no Government officials were in attendance to provide answers on the sewage situation.

However, one of the convenors of meeting, business journalist Pat Hoyos informed those in attendance that Minister of Health John Boyce, Minister of Water Resource Management Dr David Estwick, General Manager of the Barbados Water Authority John Mwanza and General Manager of the National Conservation Association Keith Neblett were all invited to take part in the meeting.

“The first thing I want to point out is that this meeting is really a waste of time because we are all going to get up here and philosophize about what should and shouldn’t happen, but it is all for nothing because the Government isn’t here,” lamented returning national Russell Winters.

He added that “what people really want to know is, what are the results of [testing done on] the discharge from the sluice gates?

“I think it is important that we drill down to the bottom of what is going on here because this is collectively our island,” he said to loud applause from the audience.

However, members of the Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) supported tonight’s meeting.

Opposition Leader Mia Mottley, in addressing the gathering, categorized Government’s absence as a “sad example of misplaced priority”.

Opposition Leader Mia Mottley (right) in discussion with one of the participants at tonight’s town hall.

“Our responsibility is to interact with people whom we govern and therefore the comments that I may have this evening cannot [be] on behalf of the Government . . . ”

“Accidents happen, bad maintenance regrettably in this instance has happened, which has led to a continuous set of accidents. I suspect that none of you are interested in the allocation of blame as you are in the repairing of the problem and . . . Government [has] to ensure that it does not happen again and this is why I am, to say the least, horrified that there is not an engagement with you here,” said Mottley, who was joined by fellow BLP members Kerrie Symmonds, Dwight Sutherland, Ryan Straughn and Wilfred Abrahams.

Mottley also lamented the fact that Parliament had opted to go into Christmas break without setting out a comprehensive plan to deal with the ecological issues along the South Coast.

It was also clear that those in attendance did not share the confidence of either the Minister of Health or the Minister of Tourism Richard Sealy about the water quality at Worthing Beach.

Last week both men dived right in for a dip in the ocean in the full view of the media, in a move designed to reassure Barbadians and tourists that Worthing Beach was safe.

However, many residents said tonight they had not ventured back there since the all clear was given by the Environmental Protection Department.

34 Responses to Govt no show for Worthing town hall

  1. Eddy Murray
    Eddy Murray December 13, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    The government smelling hell so you all expect for DEM to turn up, when DEM smell already.

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  2. Lucinda Katrina McSinister
    Lucinda Katrina McSinister December 13, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    He who pays the Piper calls the tune!

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  3. Michael Goodman
    Michael Goodman December 13, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    What a surprise….

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  4. Adrian Reid
    Adrian Reid December 13, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Keep it up …

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  5. Santini More
    Santini More December 13, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Running scared.

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  6. Wendy Stewart
    Wendy Stewart December 13, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    THAT IS JUST TERRIBLE. The residents and business people deserve answers…this is just not right!

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  7. antionette Sealy December 13, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Cud dear Mia, stop nuh! Did you expect Pat Hoyos and you would get Government Ministers to attend meetings organized by known B.L.P operatives.. You are an intelligent woman. Two nights ago one of your candidates talked about Sealy and ‘pup’ in a most derogatory way. Why should he be in the company of that individual tonight? Sorry Mr. Russel Winters, Mia should have told you that the Ministers would not be in attendance and you could have spent your time elsewhere. Decent people living in Worthing want solutions to the combined sewage system which was installed in 2003 when your Government was in power. They didn’t want to hear about ”pup” again and that’s why they didn’t turn up for tonight’s meeting. You are going to lose at the polls if you continue these unsuccessful town hall meetings and marches.

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  8. Lucinda Katrina McSinister
    Lucinda Katrina McSinister December 13, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    Both

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  9. Hunte Omar
    Hunte Omar December 13, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    Stop creating unnecessary issues and allow the government to rectify the problem. As soon as politics enters the picture, this is always the result a mass of confusion.

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    • Max Carter
      Max Carter December 14, 2016 at 12:30 am

      People should riot barbados gone

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    • Hunte Omar
      Hunte Omar December 14, 2016 at 1:16 am

      Max Carter You got it all wrong and up sided down. People should put their heads together and let common sense and God guidance prevail in finding a solution to the various challenges that confronts the Country from time to time. In every aspect of life, you will get the positive and the negatives. However, it is the negatives that will either show the world how educated or ignorant we are. Max, if riot is your only solution, it attest to your level of intellect and it is extremely sad. If as an educated people a positive solution can not be found, then we are nothing more but a dumb Nation or a bunch of educated dumb asses.

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    • Nico HL Beckles
      Nico HL Beckles December 14, 2016 at 2:22 am

      A quarter of the beach is brown and the place smells like a septic tank and the government is saying there’s no problem to rectify. So exactly how are they unnecessary issues?

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    • Dave Person
      Dave Person December 14, 2016 at 2:50 am

      Like that has worked so far.

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  10. Tiny December 14, 2016 at 12:00 am

    The Opposition is creating strife and wasting people’s time with their misinformation re the Worthing Beach.From the time I was a child the sluice gate was used to drain the swamp and we all swam in the water and everything was fine.It is a natural process which to use the sluice gate.When this is not done a back up occurs and hence an overflow which is what the residents are experiencing now.Please just understand there is no sewerage spill.Nature is just working!

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  11. Peter Manning
    Peter Manning December 14, 2016 at 12:13 am

    Peter Bentham I see ya mean business….

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  12. Big Brown December 14, 2016 at 1:12 am

    Pup or no pup. The DLP reps for Ch. Ch. had a duty to attend. Especially John Boyce who is not only the rep for that area but also Minister of Health.

    As one of the speakers at Sunday night’s meeting said they don’t give one Sugar, Honey, Iced Tea about the people they are supposed to represent.

    As my old Gran used to say ” time longer than twine.” I hope they get everything they deserve. Nothing more, nothing less. Like it or lump it!

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  13. Carson C Cadogan December 14, 2016 at 3:02 am

    Now why would any self respecting Govt. official be in the same room as Pat Hoyos?

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  14. Carson C Cadogan December 14, 2016 at 3:13 am

    A Barbados Labour Party Govt. extravagant, over budget, behind time, poorly built South Coast Sewage Project.

    MIA AMOR MOTTLEY was a Cabinet member of that Barbados Labour Party Govt. She should apologise to the people of Christ Church and Barbados in general.

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  15. VVS December 14, 2016 at 4:46 am

    They are still letting sll the water on to the beach after dark! Every night! And then close the gate before sunrise! Be open and honest with people and present a plan to fix the issue – dont scam us

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  16. Lorenzo December 14, 2016 at 5:52 am

    Carson Cadogan you paid the old lady light bill yet ? The business people and residents in Worthing wants the problem of sewerage fixed.they are not interested in history of years ago.The DLP was elected to run the country.Therefore persons like Coralita,Loretta Griffith,Antionette Sealy,Zeus,Geen Giant,Miche and Carson Cadogan need to put Country first before the Dlp,trying everytime to defend any Government problem.

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  17. Sheron Inniss December 14, 2016 at 6:57 am

    Carson today I agree with you. Sewage SHOULD NOT be going into the sea; that creates other problems. None-the-less businesses and residents are suffering and the DLP’s failure to communicate does not help. First they were in denial, then an apology – all too little too late. They are moving too slow on this issue and many others.

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  18. harry turnover December 14, 2016 at 7:05 am

    CCC it was not poorly built ,it was POORLY MAINTAINED…just like the roads , the economy,the transport system,the water situation and EVERY OTHER THING that has gone haywire.

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  19. Harry December 14, 2016 at 7:13 am

    CCC blinded as you are by rabid party allegiance your comment is not surprising……

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  20. BaJan boy December 14, 2016 at 7:56 am

    Ask DEM what maintainance has been done on the system in the last eight years. DEM can spend some of the commissions that make from the other projects like the water authority building,the sanitation building, the meter replacement project and the mains replacement project, the molasses tanks, the buses and truck repairs where they get BMW’s and Audi Q7 ‘s. What a disgrace and no leadership other Cason C Cadogan who likes to curse the messenger once he isn’t from DEM and never addresses the message.. Can tell Antoinette Sealy just ain’t smart so we excuse her.

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    • Carson C Cadogan December 14, 2016 at 8:39 am

      It is necessary to attack the messenger once they come from your Barbados Labour Party.

      Once they open their mouth sensible people know that it will be nothing more than purely political tripe. Political propaganda of the highest level, not worth the time day. They speak to their members and supporters only, but they cant fool me and others who have very good memories.

      Manufacturers of FEAR.

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  21. Antoinette Sealy December 14, 2016 at 8:21 am

    To all BLP past, present and future Members of Parliament, the BLP Cabinet members who gave consent to the installation of the Bridgetown sewage system and the South Coast System , doubting Thomases and local engineers who refuse to educate the public, here is what combined sewage systems (the Barbados type) are designed for:-

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    ”Two Different Types of Waste Water

    There are two separate types of sewer. First is the foul water sewage, which contains the waste from toilets, baths, wash basins, kitchen sinks, dishwashers, showers etc. Second, there are surface water sewers, which carry essentially harmless rainwater away to rivers and soakaways. These can also course rainwater directly from roofs (via guttering).

    There are also combined sewers, where both types are mixed together underground and sent for treatment. The problem with this type is that it leads to unnecessary treatment and can cause overflow during rain storms, meaning raw sewage from homes can spill onto streets. New developments tend to keep the two types separate, but some towns and cities still have combined systems.

    Water for washing often goes into the same exposed outdoor drains that carry away roof and surface water, but the waste from the toilet is entirely sealed, with no access to the air until it reaches the sewage plant”. Unquote

    My advice to Mia Mottley is to admit that the BLP ordered the combined system and should have know that with heavy rainfall at anytime, sewage spills are inevitable. One cannot expect better maintenance on the South West Sewage System in the U.K. However only last month, with the passing of a storm in the south west, streets and beaches in Devon and Cornwall were flooded with raw human sewage. The reason is that their combined system could not hold that volume of run off water and sewage at the same time.

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  22. Natalie Murray December 14, 2016 at 8:46 am

    I am appalled at some of the responses – a serious health threat, a threat to our tourism product and people talking about “politics”. The contempt and disrespect shown by a “Barabbas Government” to all groups within our society should not be tolerated for much longer.

    I was not aware of the serious issues relating to the South Coast Sewage Project until I listened to the Opposition Leader live on the BLP facebook page on Sunday night.

    Barbadians….we need to let our voices be heard on these issues. According to Red Plastic song (The country Sick)

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  23. Antionette Sealy December 14, 2016 at 9:14 am

    Where does sewage go?

    Two Different Types of Waste Water

    There are two separate types of sewer. First is the foul water sewage, which contains the waste from toilets, baths, wash basins, kitchen sinks, dishwashers, showers etc. Second, there are surface water sewers, which carry essentially harmless rainwater away to rivers and soakaways. These can also course rainwater directly from roofs (via guttering).

    There are also combined sewers, where both types are mixed together underground and sent for treatment. The problem with this type is that it leads to unnecessary treatment and can cause overflow during rain storms, meaning raw sewage from homes can spill onto streets. New developments tend to keep the two types separate, but some towns and cities still have combined systems.

    Water for washing often goes into the same exposed outdoor drains that carry away roof and surface water, but the waste from the toilet is entirely sealed, with no access to the air until it reaches the sewage plant.

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  24. Antionette Sealy December 14, 2016 at 9:18 am

    What type of sewage system was installed in Barbados in 1982 and 2003 during the B.L.P administrations?

    Answer:- A combined system

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  25. Fed Up December 14, 2016 at 10:18 am

    The DLP was elected because people wanted a change, they were to make this country better. Pull your head out of the sand people look around and see what is really going on. If the sewage project was poorly built what did the DLP do to correct this? NOTHING!!!!! If you want to blame one blame all.

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  26. Carson C Cadogan December 14, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    I dont think that MIA AMOR MOTTLEY will want anyone to read this:

    “Social impact assessment of a sewerage project in
    Barbados

    Calvin Husbands & Prasanta Kumar Dey

    To cite this article: Calvin Husbands & Prasanta Kumar Dey (2002) Social impact assessment of
    a sewerage project in Barbados, Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal, 20:3, 215-223, DOI:”

    An extract from the report:

    “……The implementation of these two construction
    contracts (in particular Contract 2, which was poorly
    implemented by the contractor) resulted in substantial
    impacts on the traveling public, residents and
    commercial enterprises, and created negative public
    sentiment against the project as a whole. ”

    Another extract:

    “……..The problems that occurred tend to suggest that
    the ‘lowest/least evaluated bidder’ criteria, on which
    the awarding of contracts for works is typically
    based, is not necessarily synonymous with the leastcost
    bid. The winning firm that was ultimately
    dismissed presented the lowest bid of US$22 million,
    which was significantly lower than the
    US$32.6 million bid by an Argentine and Ecuadorian
    consortium; the US$35.3 million by a British
    firm, or the US$36.5 million by a Portuguese firm.
    The bid that presented the lowest price has produced
    considerable costs in terms of social problems,
    construction time overruns, and costs
    associated with selecting a new contractor to take
    over from the original contractor, in addition to the
    burden of litigation. This contract, which was touted
    for completion within 30 months (by September
    1998) was still ongoing in 2001. The unsuccessful
    bids were all within the relatively small range of
    US$32.6 to US$36.5 million, whereas the original
    contractor was US$10.6 million less than its nearest
    rival. This difference should have raised concerns
    during the bid selection process.”

    Read the report for yourselves, its online. Barbadostoday dont like you to put in web links, so you will have to find the report for yourselves.

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  27. Tony December 14, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    Omar ,I hear you sir, a country full of educated people
    but no one have enough education to take government
    nipple out from there mouth.Let them cry like babies
    till the african snails go back to the mother land.

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  28. John Walmark December 15, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    all this tells me that as a tourist , stay away from Worthing Beach until Sewage plant is fixed and no more raw sewage will leak into streets and into sea through the Sluice gate on Worthing Beach… Im sure im not alone… what a shame
    jfwalmark@hotmail.com in Canada

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  29. Walmark John F December 17, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    Maybe someone else can get a reply from Mr . Sealy
    Here’s is his email address
    rsealy@barbadosparliament.com

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