DLP split

Party supporters divided over move to elevate Owen Arthur

Mixed emotions are flowing through the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) camp over the possible move to install former Barbados Labour Party Leader and ex-Prime Minister Owen Arthur as the DLP Government’s chief economic advisor.

Earlier this week, Barbados TODAY broke the story that Arthur, who currently serves as the Independent member of parliament for St Peter, had been approached by Minister of Finance Chris Sinckler to serve as chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, putting him in a key position to render economic help.

Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur
Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur

However, while Sir Frank Alleyne has described Arthur as the “perfect replacement” for him, when Barbados TODAY visited DLP’s George Street Auditorium in Belleville, St Michael this afternoon, not all were in agreement with Sir Frank.

In fact, some members rejected outright the move by Sinckler to call on Arthur for advice.

When asked how they felt about the possibility of Arthur becoming an ally, a group of women who chose not to give their names strongly objected.

“I don’t want Owen Arthur around the DLP. In fact if you ask me, Arthur is who is responsible for Barbados being in the position that it is in today,” one declared boisterously.

“What could he possibly do to help the DLP? We don’t need him!”

An elderly lady said she wanted the party to have nothing to do with either Arthur, or Clyde Mascoll, a former leader of the party who left to join the BLP.

“We don’t want Owen or Clyde. There are enough bright minds in the DLP for them to find somebody else to do the job. I don’t know why people believe that Owen Arthur is the only person who can find a solution for Barbados,” she declared.

Another woman contended that hiring Arthur would send the wrong message to members of the party and might even cause some people to leave.

“This has the potential to cause a lot of uproar in the DLP. There is a lot of buzz going around about this and I have even heard some people say that if they give Arthur that job they are going to leave the DLP,” she said;.

However, one of those in support of Arthur’s promotion was longstanding DLP member Astor B. Watts.

Astor B. Watts sees nothing wrong with the DLP asking Owen Arthur for assistance.
Astor B. Watts sees nothing wrong with the DLP asking Owen Arthur for assistance.

Watts, who has been a staunch supporter of the party for over 50 years, and a member for 44 years, said he saw nothing wrong with Arthur “crossing over”.

In fact, the 94-year-old argued that any move which would benefit the country was a welcome one.

“The first thing I will say is that we are all human beings and Barbadians, that is the first thing we have to recognize.

“If you watch what Owen Arthur did when he became Prime Minister, the policies he enacted were off the basis of what [DLP founding father] Errol Barrow had planned to go forward with,” Watts said.

“If Owen Arthur in his evening days, has anything left to offer beneficial to the people of Barbados I will accept it. At least I would give him a card to renew his membership and come back home to where he belonged years ago,” he added.

Watts explained that some DLP supporters might have a problem with the idea due to the fact that Arthur was a longstanding member of the BLP before resigning last year. However, he cautioned that politics and politicians were volatile in nature.

“Politics is one way in and another one out. They quarrel and they fight each other politically, but when the dust is settled, they meet each other and congratulate each other because we are all Barbadians.

“So if he accepts to be a consultant of the DLP, we won’t take the bad things, but we will take the good things and we will put them for the people of Barbados,” Watts said.

Watts also predicted that if Arthur was given the job, it would spell doom for Opposition leader Mia Mottley.

James Best, another longstanding supporter also agreed with Watts.

He said although Arthur had been a thorn in the side of the DLP for a long time, he still had a lot of respect for him.

“I respect Owen Arthur. I think he made some errors, but if he accepts as a statesman that would be good for Barbados and it would send a message to people that you are working for Barbados rather than working for a party, and that we have to get the country back on track,” Best said.

“I see nothing wrong with the DLP pulling Arthur over to do things for Barbados.”

randybennett@barbadostoday.bb

23 Responses to DLP split

  1. Michelle Stephens
    Michelle Stephens November 7, 2015 at 3:03 am

    STUPES

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  2. Veroniva Boyce
    Veroniva Boyce November 7, 2015 at 3:28 am
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  3. Alex Alleyne November 7, 2015 at 5:39 am

    Bill Clinton asked David Gergen to join his team and he did. It was for the good of Country and not “petty politics”.

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  4. Basil Graham November 7, 2015 at 7:24 am

    Come out Carson C. Cadougan, where are you ? My friend

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  5. Sue Donym November 7, 2015 at 7:44 am

    DLP split indeed! Over the last few days I’ve witnessed splits, back pedalling, contortions and about turns of such quality that one might imagine supporters of this proposal were vying for Olympics gymnastics gold.

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  6. Caswell Franklyn November 7, 2015 at 8:51 am

    If Arthur accepts the job, it would tend to suggest that he is not a hypocrite. When he was Prime Minister, he practiced what he called the “politics of inclusion”. He claimed then that he was using people to benefit Barbados no matter their political persuasion. I see no reason why the Government should not use him to benefit this country, especially where he has proven ability in the field.

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  7. Alex Alleyne November 7, 2015 at 9:00 am

    What will be his fee and who will foot the bill ???????.

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  8. jrsmith November 7, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Well as a democrat , since my , father and family members, since the passing of our late Priminister, Honourable Mr, Thompson, our party has stop. nothing has been done as to putting Barbados LTD, back on track.

    The economy, fail.
    Crime , and cure, fail
    Security, cure fail.
    Infrastructure fail. bajans are paying a bunch of no hopers for failure. for once I am so in favour of Mia Mottley as the one to get us out of this mess. which she will.

    My take , its time women around world , take command of the mess , the fat , part balding , white haired, living on memories , old men ,with no new ideas , put us in. as a 76 year old male, most of the male politicians have passed they sell by date.
    Look at bimshire, the women , are the one who seems to hold things together at the moment.

    Women make more sense , in they speeches, with more authority, with more conviction, with more assurance, and more trustworthiness. look who have clog up our courts, look who has allowed , professionals in Barbados to avoid taxes, look who have our societies always on a war footing, that our trade unions ,who are voters as well , cant even sit and discuss issues to reach amicable agreements. for a so call educated society.

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  9. CHARLES WORRELL November 7, 2015 at 9:59 am

    THIS IS THE MOST IDIOTIC GESTURE WE HAVE MADE TO DATE.
    ARE WE IN THE DEMOCRATIC LABOR PARTY TELLING OUR ELECTORATE, WHO placed confidence In our campaign to lead this country, CANT DO THE JOB?
    IF WE ARE ASKING OWNE ARUTHER, WHO, IT MUST BE REMEBERED PUT BARBADOS IN THE MESS IT IS IN TODAY: he SOLD off our bank, sold everything BARBADOS HAD LESS BANKS, which is now getting ready to be gone as well; HE SOLD US OUT TO TRINIDAD And they have repaid us be refusing to allow us to take a few fish out of the water; they refuse to sign the agreement regarding the CCJ yet, take the cheque every year for its being there; OUR LAND sold off to foreigners and we are left trying to get a little rent and we call this improving our economy; WE HAVE MINIONS out there promoting this drainage in OWNERSHIP TALKING THAT FOREIGN EXCHANGE NONSENSE AND STILL WE ARE IN A BIGGER MESS BECAUSE THAT STORY NEVER REALISES ANY VALUE..NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL.

    FACT IS: you cant bring those tax evaders here and think you get the better of them, they have the wealth and know how to lure our simple tails into this mess. ALL BECAUSE a bunch of people decide that a degree gave them the right to throw this nonsense up and we bought it for the most part, when the truth some of those so-called economist are so darn wet behind their ears, they should not be saying a word for another ten years.

    OWEN ARTHUR WAS THE POWER HOLDER WHEN THESE DEALS WENT DOWN; BARBADOS IS THE WORST FOR IT TODAY, WHY, IN GOD’S NAME WOULD WE CALL HIM BACK TO NOW TELL US ABOUT FIXING HIS MESS?

    WHERE ARE OUR ECONOMISTS? WHY ARE WE NOT LISTENING TO THE CENTRAL BANK GOVENOR, AN ABLE AND SUPREMELY INTELLECTUAL AND KNOWLEDGEABLE MAN? IF WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE PEOPLE WHO MESS BARBADOS UP, THEN IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE AND TELL THEM WE CANT DO THE JOB, GIVE IT BACK TO THE SPOILERS IN THE BLP.

    YOU MEAN Arthur hasn’t taken enough money….HE IS A MULTI MILLIONAIRE AND I PERSONALLY AM STILL TRYIGN TO SEE THE GENIUS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. HIS POLICIES FAILED IN JAMAICA and they put him out AND HE DESTROYED and disinherited our people of their land and their opportunity, WHY IS HE BEING EVEN CONSIDERED.

    YOU SEE FOLKS, we are in a quandary because we have never been LANDLORDS of a country and the RENTAL INCOME IS NOT COMING AS IT SHOULD. IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE GIVEN AWAY BARBADOS FOOLING OURSELVES THAT THE RECIPIENTS WERE GOING TO DO RIGHT BY OUR PEOPLE, STUPIDLY BELIEVING THAT CAPITALISM IS HUMANE, NOW WE FIND OURSLEVES TENANTED BUT NO RENT AND HAVING GIVEN IT ALL AWAY, HOW DO WE MAKE ANYTHING HAPPEN; YES, BARBADOS IS in a place THAT NO COUNTRY SHOULD BE AND SO, UNTIL IT RETAKE SOME STUFF, IT WILL BE LIKE PRE-1958 CUBA.

    WHERE is the so-called intellectuals? HOW can you talk INDEPENDENCE while OWNING NOTHING? INDEPENDENECE IS THE ABILTY TO DIRECT YOUR AFFAIRS; WHEN these AFFAIRS are not own by you; DIRECTION

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  10. Charles Worrell November 7, 2015 at 10:13 am

    CONT’ #2:

    DIRECTION COMES FROM ANOTHER SOURCE of which you have no control. WE ALLOWED this drain to go on just like OWEN ARTHUR did and now we are in a place where the NUMBNESS HAS TO do with our POWERLESSNESS.

    MT PRIME MINISTER, get back to basics. GET BACK to our people and work with them; GET some of those policies under the microscope for CANCELLATION. REDO OUR FOCUS. LETS get back to TOURISM but go after ownership of strategically placed hotel; lets get our prices adjusted to make us attractive again; lets get the local produce back into the hotels providing income and work for our people; lets beef up local produce, using the BAS CEO to keep this moving, TAKE back a 45% share in BANKS; REVIEW THE agreement regarding the S&T now Nassco; go after our CEMENT PLANT; SCRAP THAT NONSENE CALLED CAHILL; ENCOURAGE LOCAL PRODUCE FOR EXPORT TO OUR CARIBBEAN; LOCAL GOOD AND ART WORK BY OUR LOCAL PEOPLE, LETS GO AFTER MARKETS FOR THEM.

    LOOK, it is clear, we are stymied largely because at the end of the day, we have very little resources and when we forgot that FACT, WE ARE now in failure….lets TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE SOME THINGS; GET DR. DELISLE WORRELL IN THERE WITH YOU AND LETS GET THIS THING GOING. CALLING ON OWNE ARTHUR IS NOT A SOLUTION BUT AN WORSENING OF THE PROBLEM.

    AS A MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC LABOR PARTY, LET ME RECORD MY STRONG OBJECTION TO ANY CONSIDERATION OF OWEN ARTHUR.

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  11. Emily Atkins November 7, 2015 at 10:39 am

    They need to get over themselves and do what is best for the country

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  12. jrsmith November 7, 2015 at 10:55 am

    @, Mr, Charles ,W, hail, hail, I agree with you , part ,one and most of your part 2. but we must also blame our own people, BAJANS , for not being business like proactive over the new fond decades of our so call independence. they have sat back and allowed , our businesses to be taken over , by foreign corporates, sat back and allowed our main stay sugar industry to fail year on year , they only interest , is building churches , 100 and never investing in one good business.

    As like American blacks, who is worst of today than they were 50 years ago.back at the same cross roads, we claim to be highly educated, but where is that when the world , will laugh at us , paying an American $300,000,00 for two days to come and pray , for what all our yesterdays. And increasing his bank account adding to his $500 million fortune. Although I will continuously fire salvos at our politicians, we cannot help but witness the religious stupidity of black people praying and waiting on god.

    As like everything , blacks people always find easy targets , when it comes to the real truth, we cannot handle that ,that being our downfall, which see us sitting at the cross roads with the begging bowl year after year. From the new generation of past slave
    master, and then (REPERATION) becomes the excuse and cover for our failures.

    WE AS A PEOPLE MUST STOP , THIS STUPIDNESS , OF WAITING FOR WHAT I DONT KNOW, GET OUR FINGERS OUT, PULL OUR SELVES TOGETHER AND SHOW YOUNG PEOPLE AT LEAST THERE IS HERITAGE TO TRAVEL WITH INTO THE FUTURE.

    BE HONEST, WHAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, MONKEY SEE, MONKEY, OUR REGION WANTING TO BE LIKE ( UNCLE SAM) THE HOOD MINDED, THE GHETTO MENTALITY, OUR YOUNG MEN WALKING AROUND WITH THEY ASS HANGING OUT , AND OUR WOMEN NOT WANTING TO BE BLACK ANYMORE, BLEACHING THEY SKINS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BLESSED ANYMORE.

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  13. Kevin November 7, 2015 at 11:02 am

    Politics is fascinating but strange. We had so much politicians cussing their rival party for years, and then jumping ship and joining the party that they were cussing. Before this their was leader of the DLP Clyde Mascoll who jumped ship and became a ‘co-leader’ in the BLP. Now we have uncle Owen, former BLP PM, going in the busom of the DLP.

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  14. jrsmith November 7, 2015 at 11:11 am

    I have had 2 shots at ,this issue today, still not mention anything about the Arthur affair, make no sense getting hot under the collar, just politics, just politicians, not going to make any difference ,this is how they play us all , because we allowed ourselves to be played.

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  15. dave November 7, 2015 at 11:17 am

    Check how the women respond as opposed to how the men respond. Women are so aggressive and spiteful and cruel and ignorant too that they should be kept far away from any decision making. Women do not understand certain things about life at all. Their world view is too narrow and where they have influence , everything suffers. Women are well suited for enslavement and usually enslave themselves with their thinking.

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  16. dave November 7, 2015 at 11:23 am

    Charles –you are tawking Gibberish —Owen sell Barbadians to Trinidadians. WHy the phuck wunna igrunt bajans aint invest in the shares-wunna kunts and you Charles tawking shyte bout Owen Arthur. This Politics Clown, people want to make a contribution and if switching parties help –WTF -Clown !!!

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  17. Alex Alleyne November 7, 2015 at 11:58 am

    As easy as 1…2….3
    (1) With the economic wizard Owen on board
    (2) Barbados will return to economic growth
    (3) elections will call and DLP return to office.

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  18. Bajan boy November 7, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    None of the above comments don’t really any sense they are all substance less..Owen Arthur didn’t have the current Govenor of the Central as his Govenor and the Govenor is a known detractor. Owen openly criticized the lack of intellectual ability of the so called goons and wild boys. Would that include the same MOF who he now has report to. How can he sit in meetings with those people..did you guys realized Chris would now be his boss. From PM to this God help him….

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  19. Val November 7, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Whether B D or C, black, white or green, I support any move that will help Barbados get back on the right track. Its time to swallow the pride that is killing us and live in unity. Barbados is one dot on the world map. So why all the fuss? One major hurricane or tsunami and we wipe clean.

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  20. rick hart November 7, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Personally I believe this is there really cynical but brilliant move by the Democratic Labour Party to ensure victory at the next election. Here is my hypothesis.

    Currently, Barbados is going through some very challenging economic and financial times this is not a favourable situation for democratic Labour Party government leading up the next general election. The Democratic Labour Party narrowly won the last general election this is going to be very present in their minds and strategy for the next general election.

    Mr Arthur have left and severed ties with the Barbados Labour Party. I believe you have axe to grind. He has a large and loyal following which will split Barbados Labour Party supporters ensuring victory to the democratic Labour Party.

    It’s a win-win situation for for Mr Owen Arthur and the Democratic Labour Party. Let’s face it with Mr Arthur severing ties with the Barbados Labour Party he has cast himself into the political wilderness. This way he brings himself back into play.

    Finally miss Motley seems to be bedevilled by internal bickering making them self public this is not the time for this to be happening. A party divided among itself Will not be successful in winning victory in the next election. It would appear that all efforts I’m being put into place to stop is Motley ever becoming prime Minister

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  21. David November 7, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    If Owen can help , let him , this is one to take party out of , and put country first , we need growth in the economy, let the minister of finance and the DLP do their job , election is due in 2018 , until then all hands on deck including OWEN , if he actcept

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  22. Sue Donym November 7, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Wonder what happened to make dave so venemous and vile. Mother must have been proud. Has he ever had one of those moments where he is tempted to address the issue rather than show how poorly socialised and disrespectful he is? HA! Trick question!

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  23. Sue Donym November 8, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Do you mean the bible that says “a man of knowledge uses words with restraint, and a man of understanding is even-tempered” Prov 17:27?

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