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Gay threat!

Sociologist warns of declining birth rate

Sociologist Dr Veronica Evelyn is blaming gay lifestyles for retarding the island’s birth rate, which she said had reached a “point of no return”.

Evelyn was a panellist at Monday night’s town hall meeting at the Queen’s College auditorium that explored Contemporary Threats to the Family. It followed the Second Annual Barbados Religions Rally on Family and Faith at the Bay Street Esplanade on Sunday night.

Dr Veronica Evelyn

Dr Veronica Evelyn

Responding to a question from the floor, Evelyn said the island was already experiencing fallout from homosexual lifestyles, pointing out that “for years we’ve been below the population replacement rate”.

“For every child-bearing woman 15 to 49 [years old] we should have about 2.1 children. [However], for years we have been at 1.6  . . .  [and] the last thing I heard we’ve actually climbed to 1.8. But that’s not good, because 1.9 is critical; that is like the point of no return,” the specialist in humanities and behavioural science said.

“Two men cannot have a child. They might be given the right to adopt, but they can’t reproduce, neither can two women. Only a man and a woman [can],” she emphasized.

Evelyn also charged that increased mental problems, as well as a rising rate of suicides – which she contended were much higher within the homosexual population – had resulted in the confinement or death of many people of productive age.

“Our countries are too small and too vulnerable to take that kind of pressure,” she warned.

The sociologist also took issue with book publishers, who she said were introducing sexuality into texts for very young children.   

“We are sexualizing our children, and then act as if we are surprised when they want to have sex,” Evelyn said.

In this regard, she took particular issue with the University of the West Indies and the Caribbean Development Bank for spending thousands of dollars in producing a curriculum in gender socialization for early childhood education.

“When we talk early childhood education, we are talking three to five year olds,” she said, before asking: “What is a gender sensitive schooling? What is gender socialization? What are you teaching?”

She made reference to one of the books in the CDB-UWI series, which she said was “full of inappropriate activities”, including an exercise that ended by stating “difference is good”.

By this, she surmised, children were being “trained away from who they really are to live an imitation life.

“God forbid that those books should ever be taught in our schools,” she stressed.

26 Responses to Gay threat!

  1. Alexis Paul
    Alexis Paul November 9, 2016 at 2:23 am

    is it just me or she is telling people how much children to have that the part i don `t under stand however every thing else i agree with

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  2. Hal Austin November 9, 2016 at 4:49 am

    The greatest threat to the family is illegitimacy. About 70 per cent are born out of wedlock. This is a national scandal and speaks to the heart of our national morality.
    Even church leaders are silent about this. Then we have communities with seven, eight, nine children and there is no national conversation about this either.
    In a 166 sq mile little island, even 300000 people are too many. We need a birth rate of no more than 2.1.
    Homosexuality is not a threat to the nation, it i a lifestyle that many may disagree with.
    But it is historically Barbadian. I remember in the old days of a thriving Nelson Street the working lads and girls coming out. Men, such as Gaga, came out when British sailor er in town, and the girls when the Yankees were in town.
    The nation needs a moral core and it is not jut the boys on the block that should concern church leaders.
    Check the register of births to see how many children are registered without a father’s name.

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  3. Jessica Joseph November 9, 2016 at 5:29 am

    Where did this sociologist get her degree? Any person studying demography will tell you it is PROSPERITY that brings down birth rates. One of the most respected populations scientists of the world gave a BBC Lecture showing evidence collected over mankind’s history of our population growth and what are the factors that influence it. Homosexuality is not one of those.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UbmG8gtBPM

    C’mon people! Can Barbados adequately nourish, educated, protect and provide a bright future for all its citizens born right now and being born? No. Why not focus on solving those problems?

    Also homosexuals are not stopping heterosexuals from having children. Stop blaming LGBT people for heterosexual issues. Stop blaming LGBT people for the economic issues that are also making people think twice about having children they cannot provide for.

    Where are the academics to expose false theories like this woman’s? You need to speak out.

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  4. Richard Johnston November 9, 2016 at 7:11 am

    It seems odd that it took almost 400 years for homosexuality to appear in Barbados and start affecting the birth rate.

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  5. Carson C Cadogan November 9, 2016 at 7:16 am

    Talk your talk Doctor.

    You are making a lot of sense.

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  6. Richard Johnston November 9, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Why did it take almost 400 years for the “gay lifestyle” to have an effect on the birthrate?

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  7. Daniel November 9, 2016 at 9:05 am

    She attacks a minority to blame them for something the majority is doing? Is she going to blame fish for what dogs are doing next? So the next time someone commits a crime can everyone blame her and lock her up instead since she likes scapegoating so much?

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  8. Alex Alleyne November 9, 2016 at 9:10 am

    Young Men killing each other at will. The court system of just locking up young men. The Family planning building is flooded with “frenchies and birth control pills”. Not to mention the solution to injections young women of child bearing years to stop their period. The offices all over for killing babies in the womb also must be a contributing factor.
    Plus some people just don’t want to children.

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  9. BaJan boy November 9, 2016 at 9:19 am

    An bit of ignorance appeals to this clown Carson C Cadogan we have had homosexuals from time immemorial and they were no complaints. The fact that we have been educating our young women and a fine job done over the years by family planning speaks to the reduction in births in our country. We are murdering each other at a more rapid hence the decline however small in our growing population. Our young professional more educated women are building careers and many are having just one child in their later years. Even married couples have been settling for only one in many instances simply because of careers,inconvenience and cost.
    There are many far more significant factors than homosexuality and to be so shortsighted is another glaring example of the hypocracy existing in the so called Christian Right. I am totally against homosexuality but when we continue to preach immorality whn it comes to homosexuality and not to fornication,adultery, multiple sex partners in marriage, corruption,theft by our professionals who are entrusted with taking care of the more vulnerable we defenitely overstepping the boundaries of morality.
    Madame Dr. Evelyn I think we understand the point you are making but it is almost totally nonsensical and surely out of line with modern day thinking.
    We had people living in our country who have a different approach to child bearing and who would have contributed to our birth rate and we removed them from our country like lepers. Thet have a different attitude although I am not certain we can have them changing out racial landscape in 20 or 30 years but this is a matter which needs thorough research before coming to such senseless conclusions

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  10. Seless November 9, 2016 at 9:28 am

    Are you serious. When you bring these children on the earth what are you going to feed them first then the price of basic stuff here how you going to cloth them further send to school. Things in Barbados expensive is hell. Basic things out the reach of people here. Get children and let them suffer. You talking cause you head on your shoulders would look stupid. Sit and talk with people around the island don’t just read figures and talk from books. Ground work talk to bajans.

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  11. Shurf November 9, 2016 at 10:04 am

    I want people to know, homosexuality was always around, not that I agree with it, cause I don’t, and get children out of wedding lock have nothing to do with birth rate. Cause there Was nfidelity in and out of the marriage long before now, which cause men to have “ready made jackets” and we all know that is a child being supported by another all known full well to the woman. Low birth rate all have to do with, birth control, abortions, women wanting none or one or two kids. Poor diet, chemicals in foods, water and pollution causing us men to have low sperm count and blaming the woman whwn she don’t get pregnant.

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  12. Mac November 9, 2016 at 10:11 am

    Doc, come off the Gay lifestyle bashing bandwagon and behave like a professional.
    What if all the gays were straight and chose not have children.?

    Having children is not just a statistic to be realized.
    There are legal, social, financial and moral obligations that comes with having children and it is only when these obligations can be met that having children should be considered.

    Hal, what do you mean by illegitimacy.? Don’t you know that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child in Barbados. (still with your colonial mindset after 50 years of independence).

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    • Just Saying November 9, 2016 at 11:02 am

      How can you be telling ppl to get more children when they can’t afford them then when the ppl come out and ask for help ppl like you would be talking bout putting a strain on the welfare department and ppl looking for hand out

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  13. Richard Johnston November 9, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    How come it took almost 400 years for homosexuality to affect the Barbados birth rate, doc?

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  14. Colin Robinson November 9, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    She is saying we should not be teaching children to accept difference, but to judge and hate some people?

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  15. Carson C Cadogan November 9, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    It sounds as though the cap fits you, Bajan boy.

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  16. clint November 9, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    How can someone supposedly educated make such reckless statements based on no statistical data? Not too long ago some others, supposedly educated persons, were putting the blame of the low birth rates on family planning. However I have my suspicion as to what this Rally Barbados is all about but I would not be so reckless in saying it until I have evidence to support my view.

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  17. Francis November 9, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    The doctor is dead wrong!!
    Homosexuality being the cause of a low birth rate in Barbados? Seriously? What rubbish!!

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  18. Josh R November 9, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    Fact checking
    Barbados
    2016 pop. 285, 540
    2015 pop. 284, 215
    2010 pop. 279,566
    2005 pop. 274,013

    Population growth so far this year: 805

    (Births: 2983, Deaths: 2556)
    source: United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs: Population Division

    In my opinion, factors why persons may be having fewer children:
    choice
    career
    freedom
    finances (cost of raising children, education, etc.)

    By the way, Veronica should also check the Child Care Board for information (related to your comments about early childhood education, which can be up to age 8 btw). Children are not just statistics, births are not just statistics, and mothers and fathers need support. I’m tired of the backward people that in positions of privilege that are misleading the public. Just some additional information, the population density of Barbados (661) is higher than that of India (441).
    Source: data. worldbank. Org indicator

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  19. Kerrie November 9, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    This is the stupidest thing I have seen, and I watched the American presidential elections.

    The university is doing the right thing in creating curriculum to encourage acceptance of all people. This woman clearly prefers hate to be spread instead. Educating a child does not mean they are being forced to live a life that’s not their own or what ever, it is allowing those who do happen to be different to be able to live in harmony with everyone else, without fear of being bullied (by other children do not understand why that person is different) and/or outcast.

    Low birthrates can be attributed to many things, such as sexual education – people actually know how to use a condom nowadays or in other cases, people are probably trying to live within their means – you shouldn’t have children if you couldnt afford to raise it in an appropriate lifestyle. Having big families is a negative with many strains on a person or parents.
    Homosexuals are doing this country a massive favour by actually taking in the unwanted children which are accruing.
    This post also seems to suggest to be telling people how many children a viable woman should have. How dare you.

    This woman is not keeping up with the changing world. Scaremongering, and trying to blame birthrates on homosexuals is petty and factually not true. Please stop making assumptions and voicing your opinions disguised as facts. This woman is outdated, and has no business doing what she’s doing.

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  20. Sephira November 9, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    All this time i was thinking in this economy i jus cant afford any more children… but in fact the good doc is telling no, i am not broke and suffering… i really just GAY! haaaaaaa

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  21. Jessica Joseph November 9, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    So straight men and straight women not reproducing and you blaming gays and lesbians for that? They have nothing to do with straight people problems.

    Perhaps if the cost of food, health, living, education and housing was affordable more straight couples would stop putting off having kids until they can afford it…which year after year they realize they cannot afford.

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  22. Camille Bowen November 9, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    I remember this lady being my guidance counseller at Queens College. I acually let this woman guide me! I am so incredibly disappointed, I really hope this entire thing is taken out of context.

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  23. Lisakil November 10, 2016 at 8:03 am

    Well, well. It’s statements like this that continues to keep us back as a population and race. Ignorance to no end.

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  24. Sean Major-Campbell November 10, 2016 at 8:46 am

    The misguided comments represent much of what many uncritical and uninformed thinkers spew in the Caribbean.
    If the pre-requisite preparation had been done, some of the questions asked would have been sufficiently answered.
    The report betrays the woeful lack in evidence based material concerning human sexuality. Such a pity.

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  25. Ann November 10, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    Barbados needs to wake up and see that we are one nation of people, and to divide ourselves now into categories of gay, straight, bi is just setting us back another step.

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