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Oh no, Mr AG!

Thorne sees statement as an attack on women

Opposition Barbados Labour Party (BLP) candidate Ralph Thorne has accused Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite of attacking Barbadian women by suggesting that mothers and grandmothers had to take some of the blame for crime committed by the boys they raise.

Ralph Thorne

Ralph Thorne

Brathwaite reportedly told a St James South constituency branch meeting of the Democratic Labour Party (BLP) earlier this month that family values, along with the attitudes of mothers and grandmothers, were to blame for much of the criminal activity among young men.

However, addressing a BLP St James North branch meeting at the Weston Community Centre on Sunday, Thorne said the Attorney General’s intervention “has been as vile as the violent criminals who are attacking people in public”.

“The Attorney General [is now] attacking mothers and grandmothers in public. There is no less violence in that,” the attorney-at-law said.

“Young men are committing violent crime and an Attorney General’s analysis of the problem is to turn his own attack on mothers and grandmothers.”

Thorne argued that contrary to Brathwaite’s statements, the issue of increased criminal behaviour in Barbados was much more complex and deep rooted.

He noted that younger men, along with some women, were the most frequent criminal offenders, but stressed that “the problem that has developed and evolved over a period of 20 to 25 years cannot be solved overnight”.

The Queen’s Counsel said the upsurge in crime upsurge in Barbados – from a sociological structuralist theory perspective – was rooted in the current social conditions, including lack of educational and employment opportunities.

“People who are not given opportunities will express themselves by way of that anti-social behavior – crime,” Thorne said, although he was quick to add that it was not about giving excuses to criminals and criminal activity but offering explanations for crime.

“If you deprive a young man of a proper and sound education, he is likely to find himself a candidate for anti-social behaviour. He may not express it in violent criminal activity, but he will carry some resentment towards his society, that the institutions and the structures have excluded him and he does have equal access to those institutions . . . [that] opportunity is being denied him.”

Adding that the doors of the university have been “slammed shut on young people”, in clear reference to the decision taken by government to stop paying tuition fees for students at the University of the West Indies, Thorne said “the sons or the daughters of those single mothers that Brathwaite talked about, or those grandmothers, cannot afford to pay thousands of dollars to walk across Cave Hill [Campus] and sit down for three or four years, and that is a deprivation of what was once a right.”

Addressing the issue of unemployment, Thorne said the doors of the public sector as well as private sector businesses were also “closed to the young and not so young people in this country”. He said such situations fostered frustration.

13 Responses to Oh no, Mr AG!

  1. Phil September 27, 2016 at 6:58 am

    Ralphie boy dat man is untouchable. Funkey Donkey, can’ do a thing wid non o’ dem. He cyan even reshuffle dem. I want to ask you a question though, If you get in office will you become jes like one o’dem and forget de people dat put you in? I doan knoe if to believe you. Simple as dat.

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  2. Ryan Bayne
    Ryan Bayne September 27, 2016 at 7:35 am

    Once the AG disrespects all mothers of this nation, he’s disrespecting his own because they are mothers of creation.

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  3. Lilian Lloyd
    Lilian Lloyd September 27, 2016 at 8:02 am

    ADRIEL

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  4. Sharon Taylor
    Sharon Taylor September 27, 2016 at 9:36 am

    Wait… So if ya deprive a young man of a sound and proper education he would turn to a life of crime? Where Winston Hall and dem rest went school again? I have no problem wid d politicians having debates against each other via d media! But… Talk sensible talk… And agree at times for d sake of this little island when its applicable… Now d Ag made a viable comment… Mothers and grandmothers doing a horrible job raising dem youths… No values, no principles, no morals, no sense of responsibility, no respect for life or family and I could go on…. All school in Barbados does do basically is teach children to memorize d same material and regurgitate it out for a good grade… Family values were always the most important part of our society…. That is y d old ppl used to let their friends and neighbours cut dem children arse… And when dem foolish enough to go home and complain…. Ya mudda gine ask wa she beat u fa… And fresh licks in ya tail! Gone are the days when we as parents made sure our kids knew right from wrong or licks in ya behind….

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  5. Joan Wickham
    Joan Wickham September 27, 2016 at 9:52 am

    I understand what he is implying, but he forgets that children have minds of their own, no matter how well you were raised, when you reach secondary school, it is a matter of survival, you either fit in or get bullied, plus the head teachers at most of these schools seem to be to friendly with the students instead of being authoritative, where they are no boundaries, chaos rules, he should know all about that, seeing the chaos of his government, that is the exact same thing in our school system

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  6. Hal Austin September 27, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Does the AG read?

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  7. seagul September 27, 2016 at 11:25 am

    Any ideas on bringing this economy forward. This is what’s should be debated….this is trivial.

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  8. Alex Alleyne September 27, 2016 at 11:40 am

    Mr. “Foot-in-mouth” does it again.

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  9. BoboTheClown September 27, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Mr. Attorney General this might or should somehow make you use your words more selectively.
    Our great Island will not be destroyed by those who do evil,but by those (you included) that stands idly by and watch without doing a blasted thing.

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    • Sunshine Sunny Shine September 27, 2016 at 1:09 pm

      Well said. The cesspool of social disorder did not start 8 years ago with the DLP, or 14 years ago when the BLP was in power. Social disorder started to manifest itself a long time ago when we decided to turn a blinded eye to the many social ills that were festering in the society. We did nothing then and all we are doing now is simply talking about only because it is threatening our way of life in a big way.

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  10. Sherlock Holmes. September 27, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    Pure political clap trap by Thorne, by the way Mr.Thorne what area of law do you practice again? Some of you aspiring politicians really do think that we are fools.

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  11. Coralita September 28, 2016 at 7:23 am

    This man now crawl from under a rock or had his head buried in the sand? How many moons ago did the AG make those comments? Suh long ago I dun faget bout um and I sure others have as well.

    By the way, the AG was right, parents are responsible for raising their children with values, morals, love, reasoning skills, navigation skills etc. They are to raise whole people but instead they are raising misfits. Too many parents of today do not invest anything of value in their children because just like Ralph Thorne, they think that all the social agencies and others are responsible .

    This article is a waste of time, it is obvious he has nothing of worth to contribute and talking bare nonsense. How is the AG’s statement an attack on women? It is not an attack on me because I raised two productive citizens.

    Who the cap fit let them wear it. If it doesn’t apply to you, let it go over your head.

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  12. BaJan boy September 28, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    No one has to think @Sherlock Holmes is a fool. Just read what he writes and you know he the Attorney General,PM and MoF are all in the same deck of clowns..

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