Don’t do it – NCPTA tells teachers

 

“Desist from any attempts to disrupt the school system at this time.”

That was the impassioned plea by President of the Barbados National Council of Parent Teachers Association (BNCPTA) Shone Gibbs, as he spoke to journalists on the sidelines of an installation service for new members at Mount of Praise Wesleyan Holiness Church this morning.

 

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BNCPTA President Shone Gibbs (fourth left) and the 2016 executive in church this morning

His comments come on the heels of last Friday’s warning from Barbados Union of Teachers (BUT) President Pedro Shepherd that the nation’s educators were prepared to stage industrial action from Wednesday until the current term ends in June, unless Minister of Education Ronald Jones agreed to give teachers their requested hearing.

Shepherd also challenged the Minister to step down if he was “tired of that particular ministry”.

But Gibbs suggested that the parties could talk over whatever disputes they have.

“I believe that we could come up with resolutions, because at the end of the day we still have to sit and talk to come up with solutions to the problems, and we need to get to the table as soon as possible.”

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BNCPTA President Shone Gibbs (fourth left) and the 2016 executive in church this morning.

He called on all involved to stop seeking to outdo each other and to get into meaningful discussions.

“I suggest to all the stakeholders, partners in this process . . . whoever believe they have a trump card, they need to drop the trump card, start building. Start building and let us come up with intellectual solutions and not emotional solutions, ” Gibbs said.

 

39 Responses to Don’t do it – NCPTA tells teachers

  1. Ras Unjay
    Ras Unjay May 1, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    we dont need a b.s.t.u and a b.u.t in barbados,

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    • Carson C Cadogan May 1, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      I agree with you bro. They only have nuisance value.

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  2. Queenie ShaSha
    Queenie ShaSha May 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    So who will represent the teachers.. The more represents the kids and the parents but employs the teachers..so who do teachera go to when they are being abused and victimized and taken advantage of …….the more…They don’t care about teachers only as far as our duties go.

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    • Angela Maria
      Angela Maria May 1, 2016 at 5:13 pm

      Done Wid DAT (Time will Tell the True Tale)
      Lol, girl…let them cuss, let them fuss, let them fret.
      Angels could replace all us teachers and yet,
      Their children will still cuss, run away, steal and fight,
      Because they are not being taught wrong from right.
      They are being raised to hate, to disrespect and to blame,
      Not realising it is THEM- not us teachers- made shame
      When their child’s face is in the front page of the press,
      For the same deviant behaviour they as parents refused to address.
      Girl, from right now I am done defending our rights and profession,
      Good works speak for themselves and THEY will learn the hard lesson.
      Yes, at the end of the day, these parents will come to know,
      That you reap exactly what you bloody well sow.

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      • Lisa May 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm

        Wholeheartedly agree with you Angela Maria. I’m teaching only the curriculum that Ive been employed to teach. Whatever problems arise will be directed to the principal; whether it’s a fight or a pencil juk. Dun wid dat. Also, I’d admonish teachers to stop buying the children’s books, pencils, games clothes etc etc etc. NO MORE. Additionally, the parents that depend on the free text books and have the latest cell phones, clothes and everythning else, need to get their acts straight. I’ve been teaching for a long time and I can definitely say that I have seen the overall changes in behavior, and I’m not in my 40s. It makes no sense trying to explain. Eveyone hates us regardless of what we do. So STOP.

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        • Lisa May 1, 2016 at 6:15 pm

          Additionally, school work will be set and corrected at school and not at home when I could be spending precious time with family and friends.

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          • Coralita May 1, 2016 at 7:00 pm

            Look at how supposedly educated professionals acting out on social media. What a shame.

            I am not a teacher, never wanted to be one. I know it cannot be easy having to deal with a class of different personalities daily, especially where there are deviant ones. However, if I had chosen this noble profession, there would be no giving up for me. I would do whatever I have to do to positively impact those lives I have the privilege to touch.

            Just saying, but that is just me.

        • Sue Donym May 1, 2016 at 8:03 pm

          Hi, Lisa. I understand your passion and I sense some hurt. Not everyone hates teachers. Don’t confuse disappointment in the ‘touch one, touch all’ mentality with a general dislike. Aggrieved and enquiring Barbadians want you to agree that a teacher that falters is to be corrected and persuaded that the profession is deserving of high standards, not shielded from accountability. These people with good values do want the best from parents and children as well. The difference is that teachers are professionals and their body of ethics cannot change from classroom to classroom or vary by school.

          Think about this: if you let up by ignoring the poor student behaviour or by allowing the principal to be overwhelmed by small matters, that unruly society is what will be faced when spending time with family and friends. If you fail to take control of your classroom you will have contributed to the problem.

          It’s not teacher bashing any more than it’s lawyer or police bashing when need for improvement is identified. Nobody wants to discourage good teachers – although clearly that could happen – just don’t make them feel that the fraternity will defend even the most outrageous acts or decisions.
          BTW I’m willing to bet that you will continue your humanitarian mission, because if you were in it only for the salary, you woulda dun wid dat already, no warning. Thanks for your service, Lisa.

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          • Lisa May 2, 2016 at 1:43 pm

            Thank you mam.

      • Coralita May 1, 2016 at 6:49 pm

        Bravo, bravo!!!

        However, as poetic as you think you are, you have a responsibility to teach the nation’s children like you are paid to do, you still need to show respect to the children you teach and if you are a mature professional you will also know how to handle challenged children and help to get them to settle down. They will respect and praise you for it in the long run.

        If I were a teacher going through the system and I didn’t have children talking positively about me, I would have to ask myself a few questions. If after I’ve left the service and I didn’t have children saying how much they miss me, I would have to asked myself where I failed, why I didn’t have that impact on my students. If after I passed this earth, and a good representation of my student didn’t show up to pay their last respects, then people would definitely know that I didn’t leave an impression behind. So as much as parents may suffer the consequences of their children’s actions, the failure of teachers are also evident in the total.

        Fancy talk don’t solve problems, sitting and having effective discussions and working together to find solutions and implementing said solutions will get us on the right path. Too much power struggle is going on in the education system today.

        There are teachers who taught me in primary and secondary school who I still have the greatest love and respect for, that is because they showed me they cared. Ms. Gill and Mrs. Phillips from primary school. Mr. Jeff Broomes one stalwart worthy of mention is Mr. Daryl Jordan former Headmaster of St. Lucy Secondary School, to this day he is loved by all his students. When you can leave such a legacy behind, then you know you were successful.

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      • harry turnover May 1, 2016 at 7:15 pm

        …..and you teachers would reap what you sow too.It goes both ways maam.,as though you don’t know that there are a lots of wutless,lazy and don’t care teachers in the system for years now.
        Teachers will still CUSS the children,teachers will still have sexual relations with both girls and boys,teachers will still hand out the answers to exam papers to their favorite students…and …….
        Those children are being taught…to hate,disrespect to blame,to cheat because their teachers are not interested in teaching.Good children turned bad by the actions of some teachers.
        For ths same deviant behaviour amongst the teachers YOU as teachers KNOW about them and YOU REFUSED to address them.
        You talked about the good teachers forgetting that there are bad ones too

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    • Sonia Bragg
      Sonia Bragg May 1, 2016 at 6:48 pm

      Well said Angela Maria….I love it

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    • Queenie ShaSha
      Queenie ShaSha May 1, 2016 at 6:48 pm

      Its true…u can blame magistrate birch now can u

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    • Cherylann Bourne-Hayes
      Cherylann Bourne-Hayes May 1, 2016 at 7:17 pm

      From a teacher, not in Barbados, well said.

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    • Sonia Romain
      Sonia Romain May 1, 2016 at 8:27 pm

      Angela Maria I like that poem it is well said….but what I have notice in your comments most of the time….you are always highlighting and casting stones at young people who are bad-behave and not once have I heard you say that they are some good students…and they really are good students in every school in Barbados….another thing persons blaming parents for everything that some of the ‘bad’ and ‘disgusting’ things young people do….sometimes you does try with a child, but if they is to be bad they will be bad once they mind are made up it is well made up…#waitingonmylecture

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    • Sonia Romain
      Sonia Romain May 1, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      Some of us adults are also to blame….especially around xmas time in price mart for cakes

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    • Sonia Romain
      Sonia Romain May 1, 2016 at 8:32 pm

      You all are teachers and I really respect you all no matter what.

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    • Angela Maria
      Angela Maria May 1, 2016 at 8:50 pm

      Sonia Romain I will respond in two comments
      1.)….What you say is untrue. I am NOT always highlighting the bad behavior of young people. Several days ago I wrote a lengthy comment blaming the educational system as one of the main reasons why students in the “newer secondary schools” engage in deviant behavior. Does that sound like someone always casting stones at young people?
      As it relates to the Ellerslie issue, my opinion was that both the child and the teacher were wrong and should be disciplined. I said that the child should not be expelled because as wrong as she was (in my opinion), she is only 14 years old. Far too young for us to wash our hands off her. Does that sound like someone always casting stones at young people?
      As it related to the Springer incident, I maintained that the student should have responded in a respectful manner, picked up the garbage then reported the incident to her mother, for the latter to deal with. I also said publicly that her prolonged absence from school while the mother and school battled, was unfair on the child. Does that sound like someone always casting stones at young people?
      So, no, I do not ALWAYS cast stones or highlight the bad behavior of young people.

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      • Ejd May 2, 2016 at 12:46 pm

        Expell means moved to another school not abandonned.

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    • Angela Maria
      Angela Maria May 1, 2016 at 9:11 pm

      2) It is true that some good parents produce “bad children”, and that some parents try their best and yet the child turns out to be “bad.” My opinion is that such cases occur far less in society than cases where a child turns out “bad” due to poor parenting. So yes, I place most of the blame on how children turn out, on the person responsible for raising them. I base my opinion on nearly 11 years of teaching experience, where I have witnessed first hand parents interacting with their children, teachers and each other and have heard countless stories and complaints from students about their home life. For neatly eleven years I have borne witness to the worst kind of parenting and seen its unfortunate effects on children.
      So, I have reached the conclusion that children are deviant, angry, aggressive, depressed, rude, disobedient, despondent, lacking self confidence etc. NOT because of the teachers they see 4-6 hours a day, but because of the parents and home environment they have to put up with during the remaining 18-20 hours.

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    • Angela Maria
      Angela Maria May 1, 2016 at 9:11 pm

      2) It is true that some good parents produce “bad children”, and that some parents try their best and yet the child turns out to be “bad.” My opinion is that such cases occur far less in society than cases where a child turns out “bad” due to poor parenting. So yes, I place most of the blame on how children turn out, on the person responsible for raising them. I base my opinion on nearly 11 years of teaching experience, where I have witnessed first hand parents interacting with their children, teachers and each other and have heard countless stories and complaints from students about their home life. For nearly eleven years I have borne witness to the worst kind of parenting and seen its unfortunate effects on children.
      So, I have reached the conclusion that children are deviant, angry, aggressive, depressed, rude, disobedient, despondent, lacking self confidence etc. NOT because of the teachers they see 4-6 hours a day, but because of the parents and home environment they have to put up with during the remaining 18-20 hours.

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    • Queenie ShaSha
      Queenie ShaSha May 1, 2016 at 9:18 pm

      Angela Maria..it would blow their minds if they heard what kids hear and see in their houses etc….but we’ll pretend we dont believe what happens at home if yall refuse to believe the stories the kids running home with because there isnt a cps down here that once a child comes to school and says i heard mom and bf having sex that its directly reported and dealt with expeditiously …the ccb is a hot mess and further there is NO structure for reports of these sort of things that kids tell teachers anyways it done the other way around…against the teachers

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    • Denise L Silcott
      Denise L Silcott May 2, 2016 at 9:10 am

      Angela Maria, if only I could create that first masterpiece response as you did. Loved it!!!

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  3. Sherlock Holmes. May 1, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    Is this the same president of the NCPTA, that was quoted by one of the union presidents as agreeing with them on the Ellerslie matter after he was told the facts? When i saw that statement i wondered why would he apparently hold such view which seemed to be also prejudicial,Sir i agree with you on this one, but it would serve your best interest to avoid situations that are under investigations and allowing persons to intimate that you have seen eye to eye with them. In your capacity one would expect that you might be required to speak on certain issues,but do not allow your self or your position to be compromised,even though it appears that it has already been done.

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  4. Maria May 1, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    Enough is enough. The only people that would be affected are the children who need to be educated. While you are fighting with each other, lives could be changed as a result. I am so glad that I didn’t come home and teach.

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  5. Mark Fenty
    Mark Fenty May 1, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    Queenie ShaSha, there ought to be a newsletter which clearly articulates what is to be expected of the teachers and students prior to the commencement of the school.

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    • Queenie ShaSha
      Queenie ShaSha May 1, 2016 at 9:14 pm

      rust and believe idc who cares about me at the job. unlike most bajans i have visited new york in my uncle’s high powered coporate job and frankly we bajans check too much for what the other is doing and we fail to separate our personal and professional lives way tooo often..so plz believe i dont check for what anyone is doing..turn up do what u have to do and leave on time….repeat

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  6. Sherlock Holmes. May 1, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    Lisa leave the system it appears teaching is not your calling and please be mindful teachers are not above reproach.

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    • Lisa May 2, 2016 at 1:21 pm

      If I wanted to leave I would have left every since. I’m a good teacher and I don’t need you or anyone else to tell me otherwise. Arguing with a fool would make me a bigger one, so have a nice day Mr Holmes.

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  7. Terissa Bushell
    Terissa Bushell May 1, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    Sanitation workers took industrial action when they thought it would make a great impact and draw attention to the issues they face. BWA workers strike every two mornings, no one bats an eyelid. Teachers threaten to have “a meeting” at a critical time and the entire country is upside down. Cool fam.

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  8. Donna Harewood May 1, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    I was a teacher who quietly bought children’s books and pencils and spent more on supplies such as plasticine, glue, card, crayons and other supplies than the Ministry of Education. There was a child who no longer was given pocket money by her parents as they were building a home and figured they couldn’t afford it. Every day she would beg the children and every day they would insult her. So, every day I would give her pocket money to save her from the insults. One day I had to correct her and her touched her back. Her brother who was standing behind us told her mother that I had hit her really hard in the back. Next day the mother turned up at the school threatening to cut off my head with a cutlass. That did not change my commitment or even my behavior towards that child. We do what we do because it is the right thing to do. It may seem only to be benefitting others but the truth is that it will also benefit you in end. I would have thought that you, as a supposedly intelligent person would have figured that out but there it is.

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  9. Sandra basc May 1, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    Here we go again. Teachers are taking centre stage. How is it that there are so many issues with teachers or teaching?

    Through it all only the children will suffer from lack of teaching time. Especially those who are interesdted in being taught. ‘Peter will pay for Paul and Paul will pay for all.’

    It is about time teachers and the Ministry of Education get their act together.

    Donna thank you for that, more teachers need to stop being so thin skin, and consider the many good children welfare. Stop letting the few disruptive ones etermine what kind of person you are.

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  10. Donna Harewood May 1, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    True that most deviant children are so because of poor parenting. It usually starts in the home. But you teachers are there to show that there is a better way. And SOME of you fall very short of being good examples. Note that I said SOME. These delinquent teachers need to be dealt with just as urgently as the deviant students. You must not close ranks and hide and cover up for the bad ones like some corrupt police force. Please try to be balanced in all things.

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  11. ch May 1, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    What did Lisa say that is wrong or unprofessional?
    Nothing but bunch of hypocrites on this thread who want good teachers to continue accepting the spite and abuse that has been vomited on ALL of them since this incident started.
    Of course,we can all be criticized but don’t back-pedal now. There was no fair criticism directed at the bad elements in their profession- they were ALL painted with the same negative brush and I’m keeping it 100%.
    Teachers go far beyond their paid duty to try to salvage the many young lives who are neglected by some of these worthless excuses for parents. The fact is that the teacher is not paid to be a substitute parent nor anything else.
    So when a teacher says she is going to teach and work within her stated hours of duty, she is doing what she is supposed to do.
    Many of the people, who have this nasty attitude to teachers have never stepped out of their way nor their pockets to help these same children, including their own; many of the critics are the ones who send their sick children to school for the teachers to look after because they are a burden to them; many who are jumping up in a frenzy because it is time for the useless, archaic common entrance exam were MIA for the past seven years of their child’s school life.
    So I’m not co-signing the nonsense. Our people have become too emotional and combative and I’m advising teachers to stay within the limits of their jobs and let parents do theirs.

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  12. Janette Reifer
    Janette Reifer May 1, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    I don’t know what else to say about this place. Fah real

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  13. lester May 2, 2016 at 8:35 am

    My take is this, we as a society refused to call a spade a spade.
    Conflict can only arise when one of two or more people are involved, teachers are no saints either, i have had my experiences with some, both at school and now i have children i have encountered some junk from teachers and principals alike, my last encounter was with the principal of LVS, i do not support violence against anyone, but actions causes reactions, teachers practices nepotism and children are not stupid, teachers tell children some of the nastiest things, but teachers seem to be untouchables, teachers hit on their students and i can go on and on, my point is the system need to be flush of bad students and bad teachers cause they are baddd teachers

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  14. Ejd May 2, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    This morning my daughter told me she has 31 infants in her class, in a shared class room. How does one teacher 31 infants? These are matters that need immediate attention.

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