West Indies before IPL, says Lloyd

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Sir Clive Lloyd wants cricketers to choose the West Indies ahead of other lucrative competitions.

Country before self!

That’s what West Indies’ Chairman of selectors Clive Lloyd wants to see from the region’s cricketers going forward.

Speaking at a town-hall meeting hosted by the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) at the University of the West Indies, Cave Hill Campus last night, the cricket legend lamented the fact that most of the region’s top players were choosing to play in lucrative tournaments such as the IPL, instead of playing in the region’s domestic leagues.

However, he warned money should not be the only deciding factor for our region’s cricketers.

“We have a problem where most of our players, our top players, are leaving to go into the Twenty20 and ignoring our domestic cricket. [But] I want our cricket to be the main course and the IPL to be the snack, but it’s the other way around,” Lloyd admitted.

“So we have a problem. It’s not that we want to stop people from making a living, because it’s obvious that they need to do that. The Australians do it, the New Zealanders do it, but the point is what they do, they don’t play all.

“They go home and play in their cricket because wearing that cap for their country is important. We have to make it important for our young people. Playing for the West Indies must be the most important,” he reiterated.

Lloyd said that while he understood T20 cricket was the rave, and provided cricketers with a substantial amount of money, it paled in comparison to Test cricket.

“To me T20 is an exhibition and Test cricket is the examination. The point is that I do agree that I am not a great fan of T20, but I know that it is giving cricketers a good living…

“But I don’t think that we can promote our young cricketers where the Twenty20 is concerned. You will find out how good you are when you have to play Test cricket and play it a very high level,” he maintained.


26 Responses to West Indies before IPL, says Lloyd

  1. Prince Nicholas
    Prince Nicholas May 23, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    when you all pay the mIPl money you all can talk

  2. Noel Jones May 23, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    This the same man that went to packer

  3. harry turnover May 23, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    SIR Clive Lloyd ?….looks as though I missed something,but I agree with you 100%.

    He is saying that he has no ptoblem with those players earning the highest dollar…BUT..they CANNOT expect to PICK and CHOOSE when they want to play for the WI.

    In other words if the IPL,Big Bash and the other Leagues happened to clash with a WI test series,by all means go where the highest dollar is…BUT..when they don’t clash,don’t expect to walk back into the team at the expense of players who had done well in their absence.

  4. Scofield Forde
    Scofield Forde May 23, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    why Sir Clive Lloyd (Clive Lloyd ) then, did not put West Indies before Kerry Packer

    • Jeff Bel
      Jeff Bel May 23, 2015 at 11:53 pm

      Fa d same reason….. Money!

  5. lswiltshire May 23, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    Young players, I advise you to go and make a living when you can.

    Look how they discard Chanderpaul!

    I am sure Chanders gave up county cricket this season to be there for WINDIES but they could not give him two more test matches?

    Look how Simmons want to bring back the IPL stars.

    These guys spitting in the air and the spittle descending into thier faces

  6. Brian Mitchell
    Brian Mitchell May 23, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    So many hypocrites in W indies cricket, so disappointed in their criticism of our best players, who are left out, because their elders ( but definately not their betters, live in the past.

  7. Nixon Mitchell
    Nixon Mitchell May 23, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    Cricket the west I ndiess way

  8. Winston Holford
    Winston Holford May 23, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    is time ya all do something bout that

  9. Walter Greene
    Walter Greene May 23, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    For all the people who think that Clive Lloyd was [wrong] for going to play for Kerry Packer, let me add a little food for thought: All the West Indies players at that time were playing for zero dollars when playing for the West Indies , the only money they probably got was the man of the match or if they won the test/ODI match and that would have to be divided among all players on the team. If I’m wrong I stand corrected.

  10. Haneef Daya
    Haneef Daya May 23, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    but Shiv still gonna get dropped…

    • Thomas Katt
      Thomas Katt May 23, 2015 at 11:10 pm

      Shiv just failed in two series back to back. He should have retired at the end of the English series. Go out while his batting average is still good. Don’t wait to be pushed.

    • Haneef Daya
      Haneef Daya May 23, 2015 at 11:21 pm

      and the other much lesser players are doing so much better, arent they??? Let’s be serious here. Form is temporary, Class is permanent. Shiv belongs very much in the latter category and to besides there is no suitable replacement at this time that can claim to be better than Shiv.

    • Thomas Katt
      Thomas Katt May 24, 2015 at 9:56 am

      Shiv is forty and not scoring runs. He has become deadweight. Anybody can replace him. He’s behaving like the just replaced government in guyana. 22 years in power and still don’t to go gracefully.

  11. Beverley Hunte-Springer
    Beverley Hunte-Springer May 23, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    They don’t treat some of the players well, so what other choice do they have.

  12. John Licorish
    John Licorish May 23, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    Yea, Windies before Packer!!!

  13. Ricky D Neblett
    Ricky D Neblett May 23, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    The only one that dont seem to have something in place for players to take part in the IPL and then leave to join their team if a series falls just before or during the IPL is the West Indies,for years they have been treating players badly and its only getting worst,let the men make their money.Now Ambrose saying that anyone taking part in the IPL should not come right back into the team,so i guess they have to wait and play some regional cricket,pure nonsense,its a grudge thing.

  14. Michael Blair Blenman
    Michael Blair Blenman May 23, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    this cannot work , if it could work one of the other teams would have this policy, they make room for their players , West Indies have invested heavily in Gayle , Bravo and company and they are retiring from tests at thirty . The IPL money is too big for it to work , would take four years playing test cricket to pay you one good IPL season …

  15. Marc Goodridge
    Marc Goodridge May 23, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    When the West Indies start to pay money like the IPL then the players will stay in the West Indies.

  16. Merchant Clarke
    Merchant Clarke May 24, 2015 at 12:11 am

    Are u forgetting Packer Clive?what message are u sending to the young Players?

  17. Nathaniel Hinckson May 24, 2015 at 12:39 am

    Back in the day when most Wi test players were playing country cricket, weren’t they excused whenever a test series was in progress? Yes, cricketers have to make a living, but isn’t playing Test Cricket a priority? I thought that was always excused. I’m surprised they’re dropping Chanderpaul. I think they’re too quick on the trigger on closing off people’s career. They did the same to Desmond Haynes who, at the time was more productive than any of the younger players with whom they replaced him. Give him another series and see how he performs. He deserves it.

  18. Melissa S Rollins
    Melissa S Rollins May 24, 2015 at 1:13 am

    What players is Clive talking except Chris! And with Chris i can understand that t20 fit is not Test fit so i can get why he would play Ipl over tests! Bravo & Sammy are retired from tests & i cant recall them turning down Windies t20 or 50 overs for any other tournament. Pollard never played a test, Russell & Narine played under 10 tests & have not been selected since God knows!
    To be honest although i as fan would love to my guys in maroon i dont blame them for Ipl or other tournaments!Its not just the money of Ipl etc either! Wicb has shown me that they cant be trusted, are unprofessional & treat the players like crap! Maybe if windies make sure they have contracts signed, dont go back on their word & talk communicate with players maybe they would be a bit more respectful to national duty!Meet the players half way, windies cannot compete with money of the others but set up some kind policy that will benefit board & players alike.Without the players good, bad or ugly there is no team! So windies really need to change their thinking in order keep relationships with Holders,Brathwaites & Blackwood good! Treat them with respect & you will get it back!

  19. M. Mercer May 24, 2015 at 1:19 am

    The WI players need to be paid as near as is possible to their international counterparts. Money is not everything but it goes a long way towards players feeling valued. There is also a great need to focus on WI youths from an early age perhaps 10 years before their heads are turned by American Basketball.

  20. Tony Waterman May 25, 2015 at 2:19 am

    @all you cricket Historians, can anyone tell me how many of the West Indies Cricketers have University Degrees ?? what does that have to do with anything?? well i’ll tell you.
    Sir Lloyd, is asking these Players to give up Large Pay days to play for the west Indies, but if they are NOT picked for the Team, or if they have to quit playing Cricket Prematurely, or DUMPED like how they DUMPED Chanderpaul, who does he think will be there to support them Financially, or does he want them to come to the same end as a few of the well know Bajans who ended up,Well!!! i dont really want to say.
    He Talks about the Aussies, and New Zealanders being Patriotic and Giving up their IPL jobs to play for their Countries, but he NEGLECTED to say tht they are WELL FINANCIALLY reinbursed but their Cricket Boards. which is NOT what happens with the WICB. and he is also a Hypocrit,as he went for the money with Kerry Packer, and is now speaking with a FORKED Tongue to this Generation of Players.

  21. MAK May 26, 2015 at 10:56 am

    I am so very disappointed when I read some of the previous comments. We are surely sacrificing the foundation of our cricket form money. What about the many who would never play IPL? Did the current IPL mercenaries just appear out to the sky? Where did they learn their cricket? Does the English and Australian ‘s super stars put IPL above their countries. If money is all, then go and leave WI’s cricket and leave it alone for the not so talented and the true lovers of cricket. Least they forget, that if LLoyd and the others did not go to packers, our current players, outside the IPL mercenaries,would not be making the money that they are making: The fourth best paid in the world. Countries like Sri Lanka and Pakistan don’t make that much and they are much larger countries with a much larger population.

    We are alway comparing our current level of earnings to the to the larger countries, but realistically, is that comparison fair? Do we have large populations? Do we have sponsors with large and deep pockets? What is our current drawing powers, even with the mercenaries?

    Finally, lets be fair, don’t shoot the messenger and understand his message.

    Let common sense and wisdom prevail.


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